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re: Argument on The Rant. Which is the Best Political Diagram???
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:46 pm to Socratics
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:46 pm to Socratics
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You could even argue Anarchy is absolute freedom.
Because it is absolute freedom.
An anarchy can only survive in a society comprised of virtuous people.
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how the frick is communism right next to anarchism?
Because the Workers' Utopia is anarchistic and stateless.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:51 pm to KaiserSoze99
The first one makes no sense. Nazism and Fascism are big government systems. Both are left wing..Nazis were a socialist party.
Anarchism is a far right wing ideology. No Government.
I would put Nazism and Fascism on the far left and Anarchy on the far right, then add in Libertarianism on the lean right freedom scale and move Conservatism a little further right since social Conservatives like to use Government to limit freedom.
Anarchism is a far right wing ideology. No Government.
I would put Nazism and Fascism on the far left and Anarchy on the far right, then add in Libertarianism on the lean right freedom scale and move Conservatism a little further right since social Conservatives like to use Government to limit freedom.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:17 pm to idlewatcher
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No F LSU?
I understand that my trademarked term is not allowed on the Politics Board. I will say it 3 extra times on the Rant next time I post there, just for you.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:22 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I understand that my trademarked term is not allowed on the Politics Board.
Must be some stupid aggie moderating this board.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:26 pm to deltaland
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Anarchism is a far right wing ideology. No Government.
I would sort of agree, but too many things are confused and combined in the first chart.
These are the issues:
How much control should the government have over the people?
How much of that control should be over behavior v. economic power?
You could argue that the 2nd chart is screwed up because left and right economic control is also a form of up and down control. I think it is the best you can do, because it asks how much government control do you want over economic issues.
A better method would be to use two data points instead of one, and draw a line between them.
For example, my line would go from far right on economic issues down to far left on social issues.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Must be some stupid aggie moderating this board.
Screw off with your Randolph Duke/sip talking points. That's a tired losing argument.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:58 pm to KaiserSoze99
Given those 2 options, definitely the second. The first looks like it's meant to confuse people.
I like a circular diagram with lots of lines emanating from the center out to the perimeter. Then apply the same 4 terms as seen on the square, but I'd change the bottom to Anarchism. Left - Right - Anarchism - Authoritarianism.
I like a circular diagram with lots of lines emanating from the center out to the perimeter. Then apply the same 4 terms as seen on the square, but I'd change the bottom to Anarchism. Left - Right - Anarchism - Authoritarianism.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:17 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Screw off with your Randolph Duke/sip talking points. That's a tired losing argument.
I was merely trying to defend your right to say, "frick LSU" on the board, just as I should have the right to say, "stupid aggie" on the board.
And I don't have a clue as to what you're referring with your Randy Duke Sip shite.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I understand that my trademarked term is not allowed on the Politics Board. I will say it 3 extra times on the Rant next time I post there, just for you.
You sir, are the man
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:27 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Which is the Best Political Diagram
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:41 pm to KaiserSoze99
The second is not perfect, but it's far better than the first diagram.
Despite what all the prigs would like you to believe, Naziism and Fascism are actually more to the left of the spectrum. I think one could also argue that anarchism is to the very far right.
Despite what all the prigs would like you to believe, Naziism and Fascism are actually more to the left of the spectrum. I think one could also argue that anarchism is to the very far right.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:43 pm to KaiserSoze99
i prefer a multidimensional chart to just a straight line but the first one is a lot more accurate than a lot of people on here want to admit.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:44 pm to deltaland
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The first one makes no sense
It makes perfect sense, you've just been brainwashed by American right wing statists.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:45 pm to memphis tiger
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Naziism and Fascism are actually more to the left of the spectrum
that is just factually inaccurate. You might have just as well posted this:
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Despite what all the prigs would like you to believe, 2 + 2 = 5
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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that is just factually inaccurate
No, it isn't. Naziism and Fascism are both big government systems. The state controls basically everything. The main difference between these two and communism lies in who owns the means of production. Thus they are all very left wing.
If truth be told, they would be on the left side between socialism and communism.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:51 pm to memphis tiger
You don't know what you're talking about. The idea of "big government" is not owned by either right wing or left wing ideals.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You don't know what you're talking about. The idea of "big government" is not owned by either right wing or left wing ideals
I think you are confusing political parties with political philosophies.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You don't know what you're talking about. The idea of "big government" is not owned by either right wing or left wing ideals.
Big government is not a right or left issue. It's an up or down issue.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It makes perfect sense, you've just been brainwashed by American right wing statists.
What does this even mean?
Nazism translates to National Workers Socialism.
Where is the conservatism?
I don't see how this is possibly consistent with small-government.
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