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re: Are we the bad guys?

Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Or because I won't say whether or not the US bombed the pipeline until actual evidence comes out?

I mean it certainly could have been us and we would be foolish to rule it out. But I don't think it's smart to state it as if it's a known fact.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:53 pm to
There is most definitely an Evil Empire today. It is the leftist global cabal of the current usurper leftist criminal United States government.

Their allies also have interests within the same evil parameters.

Leftist cabal leaders of the World Economic Forum, a sad collection of genetically deficient poorly educated chaff that could only benefit from a thorough sweep and cleansing;

The leftist cabal governments of Canada, Australia, Ukraine, France, Venezuela, and others

so not "WE... The People" but the bastardized election thieves currently illicitly installed in the US are the 'bad guys'
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:56 pm to
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They invaded a neighboring country unprovoked.


Hahahah..Unprovoked?? NATO and the U.S. are directly responsible for the invasion. It was not unprovoked as you say. What a fricking clown arse shill you are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:57 pm to
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NATO and the U.S. are directly responsible for the invasion.

Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67943 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:01 pm to
We are in bed with one corrupt bunch who are in a war with another corrupt bunch.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Because I grew up during the Satanic Panic and it imprinted heavily on me, so anytime it's brought up or the neo-Satanic Panic is linked to whatever out-group du jour is popular, I'm reminded of it strongly.


Good thing it was an isolated set of circumstances that was thoroughly debunked while never showing up in human history prior or since

Greatest trick bruh…

It’s interesting that you use the term imprinting. This suggests that your subconscious may recognize the importance of what you were seeing. I too was imprinted by this,but came away with much different interpretations than you did…
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45269 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Because I don't believe our government is run by Satanic child killers?

No, and this is hyperbole by you. There are a couple posters on here who probably believe there are political figures who engage in satanic activities and kill children. I don’t know who they are but I’ll concede there could be a couple.

There are several posters here who believe powerful and political people engage in pedophilia and related sexually exploitative activities and while the scope of those claims may be exaggerated I think there is a degree of reality to them, especially given some of the stories (Epstein, et al) that have managed to leak out a little.

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Or because I won't say whether or not the US bombed the pipeline until actual evidence comes out?

I actually agree with you here. I don’t know who did it, us or the Russians. I made a thread suggesting the motivations for Russians doing it and was basically told that I needed to read a book and learn something. I also made a thread suggesting the motivations for us doing it and likewise was basically told that I needed to read a book and learn something.

So each side is very committed in their beliefs.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:02 pm to
Your takes are garbage. You are Costanza.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56353 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:04 pm to
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the Satanic Panic
After reading about the 'West Memphis 3' case in Arkansas, you might want to pump the brakes on the 'panic' narrative.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:05 pm to
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NATO and the U.S. are directly responsible for the invasion.

So the actual invading country shares no culpability?
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:11 pm to
"Why John Mesheimer Blames the U.S. for the Crisis in Ukraine"

LINK
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:13 pm to
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So the actual invading country shares no culpability?
Russia has been around since 700 AD. You should read about it, and the US should stay out of it. Is that too much to ask? We are actively engaged there. Why? Because we have corrupt politicians and federal agencies. Do you think a man on the street wants to be involved in Ukraine?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:14 pm to
We wouldn't be involved there if Putin didn't invade
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:16 pm to
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So the actual invading country shares no culpability?


What a dumbass you are. Your original statement is that Russia invaded Ukraine "unprovoked". Now you're saying they "share culpability"? There's a difference between an unprovoked attack and sharing culpability.
I think none of this happens, at all, if the U.S. does not interfere in Ukraine and provoke Russia into attacking.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:18 pm to
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We wouldn't be involved there if Putin didn't invade

Or if Ukraine didn't bomb the shite out of Donesk. Whatever. How about we not get involved? Seems like a good policy to me.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45269 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:18 pm to
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We wouldn't be involved there if Putin didn't invade


Putin’s role in this mess cannot be discounted.

To be fair though, we were involved in Ukraine before Putin invaded.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50503 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Are we the bad guys?


Not me. I don't vote Democrat.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:20 pm to
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Or if Ukraine didn't bomb the shite out of Donesk. Whatever. How about we not get involved? Seems like a good policy to me


You can't argue with this brain dead dolt. He's the perfect example of someone under the influence of mass psychosis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:20 pm to
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After reading about the 'West Memphis 3' case in Arkansas, you might want to pump the brakes on the 'panic' narrative.

While I haven't read about it, I've watched multiple docs and listened to a ton of podcasting hours about the case.

I think the majority opinion runs counter to your claims
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:21 pm to
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we were involved in Ukraine before Putin invaded.


Our primary involvement didn't come until he injected himself into the political process of Ukraine, though (which we did in kind, to thwart him).
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