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re: Are we are headed fast towards the tribulations
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:42 am to jcaz
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:42 am to jcaz
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Don’t need some mysterious sky man
Religious people dont even believe that.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth
The Law of One is more similar to what I believe.
The Law of One is the comprehension that all things are made of intelligent energy and are a part of the All-One.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:48 am to Heresthetruth
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You really don’t know that.
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I can promise you we aren’t even close to the return of the Christ.
How can you know that while saying I don't know? For the record I don't know the time, I'm merely offering a possible interpretation.
And what do you mean by "Close"? Do you know what time is to God? If so please share I've always wondered what time is to the Eternal Father.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:49 am to Squirrelmeister
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I don’t think most Christians believe that but some do.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of Biblical scholars believe that.
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For you to believe that, you’d have to say that we are presently in the kingdom of God. If I were Christian I would reject that premise, as folks are aborting their babies, warring for no reason, and generally being shitasses with no consequences. There’s a lot of pain and suffering in this world and I don’t think that is supposed to be a part of God’s kingdom. That’s my opinion.
That is explained in several other places in the Bible. Statements by Paul and the entire book of Revelation. Again, you don't have to believe it, but it's not honest to act like it's self-contradictory.
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Clearly Paul was referring to “we who are still alive” literally.
That's not the part that debunks your claim of failed prophecy. Yes, he was referring to those still alive when Christ returned. And it's probably true that he thought Christ's return would be soon, just like the Disciples misunderstood Jesus' role as the Messiah until after He had fulfilled it. The part that is not true is that because Paul thought that's what was going to happen and it didn't, it means that the prophecy actually conformed to Paul's expectations and when it didn't happen the way he thought it would the only conclusion is that there's no truth to it.
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I normally have an airtight case.
I'm sure I haven't seen all of your Christian-sniping on here, but I'be never seen you make an airtight case. Not once. I've answered every one I have ever seen. All of them are just like this one, where you post half truths and draw conclusions as though they are the only conclusions possible from your assertions.
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On the subject of manipulation and spin, it is most often the pious believer who makes the case that the scripture doesn’t mean what it literally or even figuratively or allegorically says.
That's not my experience at all. The materialist atheist is the most self-contradictory creature in existence IME.
"The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it, petty, vindictive, unjust, unforgiving, an ethnic cleanser urging his people on to acts of genocide."
"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”
The same famous atheist is responsible for both of those quotes.
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You have a lot of nerve.
For pointing out obvious bullshite offered in bad faith? O.k.
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You guys can’t fathom how someone can not believe in fairy tales and make believe.
Sure I can. I'm aware of plenty of atheists who claim to believe in a state of affairs that logically precludes any justice from possibly existing, then getting righteously indignant at perceived injustices. I'm very aware that many profoundly unreasonable people exist in the world.
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How could I hate something that doesn’t exist?
You couldn't, and that's the point. Because if you really, truly, down deep didn't believe in God and really thought He was a fairy tale only believed in by weak minded simps, it's not logical at all that you would expend the energy that you do trying to argue against Him.
What other simp fairy tales do you post about repeatedly online, "just to learn?" Why would you want to learn more about a simp fairy tale?
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 10:52 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:52 am to Heresthetruth
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I can promise you we aren’t even close to the return of the Christ. You focus so much on the harlot at the end of the book. You should pay attention to the bride. It is supposed to be spotless. The church isn’t close to that.
The spotless nature of the church doesn’t come from its own works, but it is spotless because of Jesus sacrifice for it. His righteousness has been imparted on us.
If God had to wait for a spotless church to return, he never would.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:59 am to Azkiger
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know the Bible said that God finds burning flesh to be a pleasing scent, but it's gotta be deeper than that, right?
One of my theology professors (a former Jesuit) did offer a different perspective. One based on the man and the time and place in which he supposedly lived.
That Jesus the man sacrificed himself to show the lengths to which we should go to forgive one another. During the time of Jesus being marked a sinner was like being cancelled but much much worse. Jesus died because his message of the forgiveness of sins was a direct challenge to the Pharisees beliefs and authority. So in essence he did die so sins could be forgiven but not is some cosmic blood sacrifice to Yahweh or himself or whatever... he was kinda like a civil rights activist for those that had been casted out of society for being labeled sinners.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:26 am to Azkiger
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How do you think aliens fit into all this?
Part of the end time deception perhaps? Satan is called the Prince of the Power of the Air in the Bible. It wouldn’t be shocking if he used demons to masquerade as aliens and convince earthlings that there is no God and they instead seeded our race.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The book of job destroyed any faith I had in the infallibility of the bible.
Can you elaborate on this?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:42 am to Mo Jeaux
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Ah, it’s time for another wacko religion thread.
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But I do care to be a part of it. I enjoy learning about religions, and I enjoy discussing them.
This seems to be contradictory
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:48 am to Revelator
quote:That's because it is.
This seems to be contradictory
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:49 am to Ribbed
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I'm not. God promised I wouldn't see his wrath. I've been redeemed.
I’ve never done any outside reading on the Tribulation, but I read the NT through one time, and came away leaning strongly that the rapture would occur mid-tribulation. I guess that’s the least popular of the 3 stances? Oh well, not being argumentative, but your post caused me to recollect that.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:50 am to Snipe
I think your theory is absolutly possible. I can see a huge attack on the US that bascially takes us out of the equation. All the Muslim countries ganging up on Israel. It fits perfectly. Time line, events, everything.
Russia has placed soldiers in the Golan Heights area as of today.
Russia has placed soldiers in the Golan Heights area as of today.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:51 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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I think your theory is absolutly possible. I can see a huge attack on the US that bascially takes us out of the equation. All the Muslim countries ganging up on Israel. It fits perfectly. Time line, events, everything.
Russia has placed soldiers in the Golan Heights area as of today.
Oh boy.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:56 am to Revelator
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This seems to be contradictory
Not really. Lots of people find enjoyment engaging in topics that they find strange or has he calls it whacko.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:57 am to Revelator
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Can you elaborate on this?
Do you believe the devil went to visit God and the Satan convinced him to let him attack job?
In Gen 6, do you believe God repented that he made man?
The bible uses a lot of allegories that are taken as fact.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:58 am to ThuperThumpin
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Not really. Lots of people find enjoyment engaging in topics that they find strange or has he calls it whacko.
If a person says he really likes being involved in religious threads, but then says,” not another wacko religious thread”, how can this be viewed as anything but contradictory?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:00 pm to Revelator
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If a person says he really likes being involved in religious threads, but then says,” not another wacko religious thread”,
Trolling.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:00 pm to Revelator
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If a person says he really likes being involved in religious threads, but then says,” not another wacko religious thread”,
Trolling.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:01 pm to Snipe
Just 2 more weeks til the rapture. Can yall go back to Q posting? That was entertaining at least.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you believe the devil went to visit God and the Satan convinced him to let him attack job?
It’s certainly not a passage that would make me doubt the inerrancy of scripture.
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