re: Are the vaccinated infecting the unvaccinated with spike proteins?

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Those two in particular show stability of antigenic sites from generation to generation, which should suggest something to these people who are saying that viruses mutate for their own sake, and that mutation always is unidirectional.

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So polio and smallpox don’t mutate?

Why do you believe Covid mutated?

Not a flame…really would like to know your opinion. Thanks

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So polio and smallpox don’t mutate?

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They do mutate. But they seem less likely to mutate those antigenic sites, which are sites which produce an immune response, because they aid their survival in some key way. Selecting for those sites leads to higher rates of conservation. RNA viruses like Polio and Corona can mutate at rates up which would take DNA viruses, like smallpox, 300,000 to 3 million generations to achieve, but all RNA viruses do not mutate the same way. There is substantial selective pressure for COVID to conserve its spike protein portion, because it allows it to survive. Large parts of the genome are meant to give the virus enough variability to survive selection pressures generation to generation, as those can change as the virus encounters new defenses and environments.

Measles is another RNA virus that tends to conserve antigenic sites, as it is quite infectious and robust in its current form. The key you have to understand is that not all viruses will see the same selective pressures because they operate in different areas of the body.

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There is substantial selective pressure for COVID to conserve its spike protein portion, because it allows it to survive. Large parts of the genome are meant to give the virus enough variability to survive selection pressures generation to generation, as those can change as the virus encounters new defenses and environments.

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So COVID is more than likely going to evolve into becoming less deadly naturally unless we frick with it?

so now we are making more things up to demonize the vaccinated in a poll to shame others? ya'll have turned into prog filthers.

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So COVID is more than likely going to evolve into becoming less deadly naturally unless we frick with it?

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No. Viruses don't evolve unidirectionally. They just respond to pressures from generation to generation. The virus has substantial reason to retain its virulence as that is tied directly to its ability to propagate in the future, and thus will mutate around the predominant strain if left to its own devices. It's possible that it could reach its error threshold rate naturally, but the mRNA vaccines are designed to put significant selective pressure on the spike protein, which means that the rest of the genome has to be have enough genomic variation to find a solution to those normal immune response pressures generation to generation.

A mass vaccination program that occurred in a relatively short time span would minimize the risk of the development of occult morphological characteristics, which, in the right setting, could absolutely increase its relative virulence. It's difficult to achieve that given that the virus is international, and there is no large population that is at equilibrium. The development of another robust characteristic could absolutely increase the virulence and pathogenicity, but all possibilities still exist at the moment.