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re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano bringing the questions of the Jesuit Bergoglio..
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:10 am to RED DAWN REDUX
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:10 am to RED DAWN REDUX
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Does it have anything to do with living in Christ today…no, it’s in the past so its presence on chart is to show dichotomy of how far Rome went away from the East.
It is a sad chapter in Christian history, just as there are sad instances of venetian or french alliances with the Ottomans at times when they were busy trying to sack Vienna or engaged in Christian enslavement.
I think the point I was trying to make is that the Orthodox have a unique penchant for victimhood, and as evidenced by your biased chart, have a hard time getting over an event that they try to conflate with an official act of the RCC.
Was it a sad instance of men denying their call to act as Christ would have us act? Yes. So to was Peter's denial of Jesus 3x.
The Crusades features plenty of bad behavior by Byzantium towards those who answered the Pope's call to arms in defense of the faith. I think your average Catholic doesn't hold that against the Orthodox community and more seriously wishes for you and your kind to return to Communion with neither Church. I get the feeling that the Orthodox feel consumed by their status as rebels, and find an identity in it instead of finding an identity in their membership in Christ's visible Church.
My hope for you: recognize Peter's role, recognize the validity of all parts of Apostolic Succession, and join yourself back fully to Rome.
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:19 am to Northshoretiger87
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The people still in the Church are just waiting for Francis to die. He’s a bad and angry man. Even the liberals are disillusioned with him.
I can’t see how this would be true. What would be their issue with him?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:24 am to biglego
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I can’t see how this would be true. What would be their issue with him?
Tell me, for every media soundbite about him changing a Dogma or Discipline of the Faith, how many have actually come to pass? Where has he changed Church Dogmas or Disciplines?
He has unfortunately restricted the Latin Mass...outside of that, what has he done to adopt the desires of Fr Martin or the Germans?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:52 am to Foch
What changes are the krauts pushing for?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:08 am to GREENHEAD22
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What changes are the krauts pushing for?
Women priests.
Homosexual marriage
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:42 am to Guntoter1
Heathens going straight to hell.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:50 am to GREENHEAD22
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Heathens going straight to hell.
Why is it Germany is always at the center of all things evil.
WW1, WW2, barbarians that harassed the christian world,
Protestant reformation,
And now this.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 3:15 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Good for you!
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:25 am to Foch
quote:God damn if that doesn't sound like some random 14th century royal preparing a beheading defense.
Tell me, for every media soundbite about him changing a Dogma or Discipline of the Faith, how many have actually come to pass? Where has he changed Church Dogmas or Disciplines?
He has unfortunately restricted the Latin Mass...outside of that, what has he done to adopt the desires of Fr Martin or the Germans?
Are the robes the right shade? Are the stockades ready?
poof poof poof!; Hide retard Aethelwulf!
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:14 am to Guntoter1
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Why is it Germany is always at the center of all things evil.
I don't think its a "German" thing per se. It just so happen that a Catholic monk from the German states ignited the protestant heresy. Which over the next 300yrs led to more nationalistic philosophies which were very anti-catholic and can be argued was a symptom to thrust Germany into WWI.
France had their revolution which targeted the Church within France then the scourge of Napolean on the Papal States and the rest of Europe.
England has Henry the VIII which led to their bloody reformation and persecution of Catholics.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:04 am to GREENHEAD22
Germany is not a monolithic place. It is unfair to lump the Bavarians in with the stuff coming out of other parts of the country.
Another example of how much of the 19th century was an absolute failure. German (and Italian) unification has been a disaster for Christendom.
Another example of how much of the 19th century was an absolute failure. German (and Italian) unification has been a disaster for Christendom.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:05 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Since the Catholic Church is a theocracy and not a democracy we Laity have little chance of removing Bergoglio from office. Begoglio's boss (God) will have to do that.
So I will do what I have always done - continue to practice my Catholic Faith as I have always done. That includes focusing on my relationship with My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, practicing the Corporal and Spiritual works of Mercy, and reciting the Rosary. There are so many souls undergoing every sort of trial and suffering, including members of your own family. Immerse yourself in serving them and you will not have time to dwell on the sad state of the world.
The Rosary is a shield against Satan. If only people would appreciate the power of the Rosary. We don't need to worry about attacks from Satan as long as we recite the Rosary.
At the apparitions of Our Blessed Mother at Fatima, Portugal in 1918, over 70 thousand pilgrims witnessed the Miracle of the Sun during the final apparition, including reporters from the newspapers. During the apparition, Our Blessed Mother prophesied that under communism Russia would become a world power. Many people scoffed at that prophecy since at that time Russia was far from a world power.
Our Lady offered a weapon against communism and sin. She told the visionaries (Lucia, Jacinta, and Franciso) that if people prayed the Rosary and lived good lives communism in Russia would be defeated and there would be peace.
I remember as I watched the Berlin Wall coming down in East Berlin marking the end of communism I thought of our Blessed Mother's words to the visionaries at Fatima. Unfortunately, the world forgot the message and has reverted back to unprecedented decadence and sin. The result of which the world is being plunged into war and suffering. I recall it was St.Theresa of Calcutta who reminded us that - war is punishment for sin.
Do you want to save the Catholic Church, America, and the world? Pray the Rosary unceasingly. It's that simple.
What we're witnessing now in the Catholic Church and other denominations, and in America, is the work of the demonic.
The part that Our Blessed Mother was destined to play in the salvation of mankind was prophesied in Genesis.....
"And I will establish a feud between thee and the woman, between thy offspring and hers; she is to crush thy head, while thou dost lie in ambush at her heels" (Genesis 3:15)
Mater Dei, ora pro nobis Amen
So I will do what I have always done - continue to practice my Catholic Faith as I have always done. That includes focusing on my relationship with My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, practicing the Corporal and Spiritual works of Mercy, and reciting the Rosary. There are so many souls undergoing every sort of trial and suffering, including members of your own family. Immerse yourself in serving them and you will not have time to dwell on the sad state of the world.
The Rosary is a shield against Satan. If only people would appreciate the power of the Rosary. We don't need to worry about attacks from Satan as long as we recite the Rosary.
At the apparitions of Our Blessed Mother at Fatima, Portugal in 1918, over 70 thousand pilgrims witnessed the Miracle of the Sun during the final apparition, including reporters from the newspapers. During the apparition, Our Blessed Mother prophesied that under communism Russia would become a world power. Many people scoffed at that prophecy since at that time Russia was far from a world power.
Our Lady offered a weapon against communism and sin. She told the visionaries (Lucia, Jacinta, and Franciso) that if people prayed the Rosary and lived good lives communism in Russia would be defeated and there would be peace.
I remember as I watched the Berlin Wall coming down in East Berlin marking the end of communism I thought of our Blessed Mother's words to the visionaries at Fatima. Unfortunately, the world forgot the message and has reverted back to unprecedented decadence and sin. The result of which the world is being plunged into war and suffering. I recall it was St.Theresa of Calcutta who reminded us that - war is punishment for sin.
Do you want to save the Catholic Church, America, and the world? Pray the Rosary unceasingly. It's that simple.
What we're witnessing now in the Catholic Church and other denominations, and in America, is the work of the demonic.
The part that Our Blessed Mother was destined to play in the salvation of mankind was prophesied in Genesis.....
"And I will establish a feud between thee and the woman, between thy offspring and hers; she is to crush thy head, while thou dost lie in ambush at her heels" (Genesis 3:15)
Mater Dei, ora pro nobis Amen
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/6/24 at 4:07 pm to Champagne
The Father Emiterus for a diocese gave the homily for Christmas mass. He is a Polish priest and said we need another good Pope like his countrymanJP2. That is the closest anyone I know has come to complaining about this Jesuit Pope. I feel a bit like a bad Catholic as I have never been found of this Pope.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 4:21 pm to Zarkinletch416
Elderly Catholics who find themselves increasingly alone and isolated from the world may well find that praying the Liturgy of the Hours is a way to spiritually ascend to an ever-closer relationship with God.
Do they pray in Heaven? If so, the Liturgy of the Hours may very well be what they are praying.
Here's some general info on the Liturgy of the Hours.
LINK
Do they pray in Heaven? If so, the Liturgy of the Hours may very well be what they are praying.
Here's some general info on the Liturgy of the Hours.
LINK
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:24 pm to Foch
God bless you brother and may His peace be upon you,
I was raised in south Louisiana as a Catholic and then later attended a Pentecostal assembly.
Was basically agnostic AKA self absorbed / self serving majority of my adulthood.
I have no ill will towards my Catholic nor Protestant brethren. I just remember crying out to God to show me His true Church on a deerstand in Jan 2019 and he did the next day, while listening to a podcast about this surreal thing called Orthodoxy.
I will NEVER leave the true Church and pray to be an example daily of the love and grace with which CHRIST showed me
I was raised in south Louisiana as a Catholic and then later attended a Pentecostal assembly.
Was basically agnostic AKA self absorbed / self serving majority of my adulthood.
I have no ill will towards my Catholic nor Protestant brethren. I just remember crying out to God to show me His true Church on a deerstand in Jan 2019 and he did the next day, while listening to a podcast about this surreal thing called Orthodoxy.
I will NEVER leave the true Church and pray to be an example daily of the love and grace with which CHRIST showed me
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:11 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
It's a great Church and lucky for you, you have one rather close to your home.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:05 am to bayoubengals88
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I wish I could be Roman Catholic. They just simply won’t allow it.
what do you mean?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:15 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Is the Pope Catholic?
The very idea of a Pope flies in the face of Biblical teachings. This was always going to end with apostates and heretics running the show. There could be no other possible result.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:23 am to imjustafatkid
quote:ok, I take back the 12 times I referred to you as a moron the past 2 days
The very idea of a Pope flies in the face of Biblical teachings. This was always going to end with apostates and heretics running the show. There could be no other possible result.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:48 am to imjustafatkid
There is indeed Biblical and Church history support for the Primacy of Peter.
Here's the proof:
LINK
Here's the proof:
LINK
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