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re: Approval of Trump's Iran war actions ahead by double digit margin

Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by jammajin
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:45 pm to
see you have to prove why saying the AIEA couldn't gain access is the truth.

But drivel never needs to answer why we should believe one of histories worst, most evil and lying regime was supposed to be believed because they signed a piece of paper and pinky swore they wouldn't enrich uranium past a certain point in exchange for more cash to sponsor terror.

See Deathbydrivel starts with the position that Iran is honest and honors agreements they sign and everyone else is bad and evil.

Once Trump tore up the piece of shite agreement his hero "peace in our time" Obama agreed to he has a free ticket to be a 4th grader and not recognize realities.

Or you can just conclude he's an anti American POS. your call. I've made mine.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 4:46 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 5:34 pm to
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IAEA reports were minimalist and provided less technical detail than pre-JCPOA reports

Misleading. IAEA did change reporting style. Reports became shorter, more standardized, less granular public detail.

Sensitive details were moved into confidential channels to member states & public reports became more compliance summaries than technical dumps.

That was on purpose, not a compliance issue.

quote:

“IAEA omitted or downplayed compliance controversies (e.g., centrifuge R&D issues)”


Institute for Science and International Security argued IAEA was too cautious in public reportin, but the IAEA did report deviations when relevant & most issues cited were minor or resolved within JCPOA mechanisms.

So “Downplayed” is not an objective fact & you’re shifting from a claim of breach to criticism of IAEA.

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Inspectors had not visited military sites and said there was ‘no reason to ask

Access to military sites required specific justification under the agreement. They had no specific evidence requiring access at that time. That’s very different from “We don’t want to inspect” & more accurately “We don’t request inspections without evidence”

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“Without access to military sites, verification was inherently limited”

Any inspection regime has limits, this is true in general. There were mechanisms for monitoring undeclared activity… Supply chain monitoring & environmental sampling.

The IAEA explicitly distinguishes between declared material verification and absence of undeclared material. Undeclared verification was ongoing, which is standard for nuclear verification worldwide.

So your response is far from baseless nonsense, but it’s framed in the most skeptical interpretation possible… mixing facts with opinion & omitting key context that changes the meaning
Far from proof of anything. More importantly, we never secured a better deal & I’m not sure what sort of terms people imagine the US and Iran would agree on now that would be an improvement.

Which begs the question… what are we trying to accomplish here?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 5:38 pm to
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See Deathbydrivel starts with the position that Iran is honest and honors agreements they sign and everyone else is bad and evil.

Hardly. You just can’t process nuance.
You maintain that regime change isn’t the goal, so what’s the plan? Trust Iran to honor another agreement right?
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I’ve made mine.

No one cares.
Posted by LSUGrad2024
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 5:44 pm to
Those are absolutely trash numbers. Title is crazy misleading.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:29 pm to
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I’m not sure what sort of terms people imagine the US and Iran would agree on now that would be an improvement.

I'm perfectly fine with us and Israel pounding the shite out of the Iranian military/government until a better "deal" is made.

I'm going with no nukes/enrichment, no ballistic missiles and no IRGC regime. That's the best deal I would give them.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:15 pm to
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I'm going with no nukes/enrichment, no ballistic missiles and no IRGC regime. That's the best deal I would give them.

Well we agree that regime change is the only acceptable outcome now. If the regime remains, the first two conditions are long-shots at best.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 8:18 pm
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:35 pm to
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Funny how no one wants to hear this.


Oh I don’t mind hearing it. I just, also, know it’s not true.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21833 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:36 pm to
The polls are being manipulated. I don’t believe for a second that this country supports this bullshite war that Israel started.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:57 pm to
Just wait until the midterms and bump this thread.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Yes I absolutely believe that the Iranian regime is the moral equivalent of nazi Germany. 
Why hasn't Iran killed the Jews and Christians in Iran since 1979? They've had plenty of time to do Nazi things inside their own borders if that was their goal.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:46 pm to
Because they are wonderful people who you can fully trust

Carry on.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:47 pm to
Ain't no Persian ever called me goy.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:51 pm to
I couldn’t be more happy for you

Carry on (some more)
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:52 pm to
I agree with your username and it’s a crime not enough people do.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:56 pm to
Enlistment age just rose bro. Nothing is stopping ya from joining up.

And yes, Murph belongs in Cooperstown.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:58 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:58 pm to
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Enlistment age just rose bro. Nothing is stopping ya from joining up


There is not you are correct

What an astute observation on your part

Carry on even more
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:04 pm to
I think this great nation would be better off having red blooded Americans like yourself in the military instead of these kids who won't jubilantly go forward and dodge Iranian missiles and UAVs.

Here you go, high speed

Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:11 pm to
I certainly don’t want kids who don’t want to jubilantly go forward to dodge something something

I’ll go down to the recruit office tomorrow morning.

Thanks again for the suggestion.

This continues to be a good look for you. Carry on.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Member since Sep 2019
18914 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:14 pm to
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I’ll go down to the recruit office tomorrow morning.
Glad to hear it.

I'll buy you your first beer after you get back from the CENTCOM AOR.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Why hasn't Iran killed the Jews and Christians in Iran since 1979? They've had plenty of time to do Nazi things inside their own borders if that was their goal.

I hadn’t really thought about this concept, strangely enough. As usual, I simply did the googles on it, Jews being of immediate interest.

So there are between eight and ten thousand Jews currently residing in Iran (which if anything I’d guess is inflated, to one degree or another). They live under Sharia law and are forced to declare some sort of oath of allegiance and loyalty to Iran, have to declare themselves a certain “strain” of Jew, can’t hold certain kinds of jobs, can’t do this, must do that, etc etc etc.

So yeah, in fact a bit reminiscent of Jewish “ghettory” in Poland. Definitely at a minimum they are legally restricted in many ways exclusively due to their religion.

Perhaps you didn’t make any googles on this yourself.
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