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Posted on 3/25/26 at 2:08 pm to tigersmanager
bump
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:52 pm to loogaroo
B/c they have Saddam Syndrome.
Notice how the earnest, non-troll opposition is mostly coming from PTers in their mid-late 30s to early-mid 40s. They came of age at a time where the war in Iraq will forever shape their opinions re: not ever wanting US involvement in the Middle East. In their eyes, Iraq '03= Iran '26 and that is that.
Notice how the earnest, non-troll opposition is mostly coming from PTers in their mid-late 30s to early-mid 40s. They came of age at a time where the war in Iraq will forever shape their opinions re: not ever wanting US involvement in the Middle East. In their eyes, Iraq '03= Iran '26 and that is that.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:54 pm to loogaroo
This is so fake. Nobody believes this
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:02 pm to loogaroo
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:07 pm to loogaroo
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Funny how no one wants to hear this.
The OP had 15 upvotes to 13 downvotes.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:11 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Just say regime change.
He wrote…
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Iran's people are provided with an opportunity to change the regime
You’re really going to pick a nit over the order of the words?
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:14 pm to JLivermore
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B/c they have Saddam Syndrome. Notice how the earnest, non-troll opposition is mostly coming from PTers in their mid-late 30s to early-mid 40s. They came of age at a time where the war in Iraq will forever shape their opinions re: not ever wanting US involvement in the Middle East. In their eyes, Iraq '03= Iran '26 and that is that.
Which proves they know absolutely nothing about Iran.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:22 pm to loogaroo
Correct
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:13 pm to Penrod
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You’re really going to pick a nit over the order of the words?
Not the issue.
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Iran's people are provided with an opportunity to change the regime that has been oppressing and slaughtering them. If they choose to take advantage of support for to whatever degree we can (could be after the fact of agreements).
He put so many qualifiers in there and hedged his bet so much that he may as well have just left it off his list.
I asked to define goals or what success looks like. Is regime change the goal or isn’t it?
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:22 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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ke. Is regime change the goal or isn’t it?
No. And it never has been
I love guys like you. Give me your list. I give it to you. You bitch about it
Frick you. If you don’t like my list make your own. Just don’t pretend yours is Trumps.
Look I get it. Obama and Biden are Neville Chamberlin bringing you peace in your time and you’re lapping up what they sold you.
Some of us are more realistic. We learned the lesson of the 20th century. Evil exists in the world and must be confronted before it has a chance to kill millions.
I’m good on my side of this argument. You stay on the side that sees the US doing wrong and Iran being the victim.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:27 pm to Murph4HOF
She RCP and the NY times both predicted Harris to win in their final polls, but they are better because they predicted a closer win. If NY times is considered really bad, why is RCP good and not just less bad fior still getting it wrong.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:41 pm to Penrod
It’s OK I understand the type of poster
He positions himself to not be wrong. Then nit picks your position.
He’s probably a back cubicle worker bee in real life too. Weak kneed, wait for somebody else to take real action and then poke holes in their action.
Some people are actually meant to lead during difficult times. Others stand on the sidelines and bitch, move the goalposts, and always end up being a legend in their own mind.
This one just happens to be so addled with TDS that he’s screwed up enough to make the US the bad guy and Iran the victim of the bad guy.
He positions himself to not be wrong. Then nit picks your position.
He’s probably a back cubicle worker bee in real life too. Weak kneed, wait for somebody else to take real action and then poke holes in their action.
Some people are actually meant to lead during difficult times. Others stand on the sidelines and bitch, move the goalposts, and always end up being a legend in their own mind.
This one just happens to be so addled with TDS that he’s screwed up enough to make the US the bad guy and Iran the victim of the bad guy.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:26 pm to jammajin
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No. And it never has been
Okay so regime change isn’t the goal… so then the goal is a diplomatic agreement with the regime, like we had before.
But now you think it’s realistic they’d give up their ballistic missile program & the strait + you trust them more after all that has transpired since 2018… than you did in 2017.
Maybe I’m not “positioning myself never to be wrong” & maybe every decision Trump has made on Iran his last two terms… and this war… and your attempts to defend it… are just weak.
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:33 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Do we believe polls now or do we not?
Do not
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:34 pm to dgnx6
quote:Because RCP is just averaging all polls, not weighting them like the NYT, 538, and others.
If NY times is considered really bad, why is RCP good and not just less bad fior still getting it wrong.
RCP predicted Trump to win the electoral college in 2024 based off of the average of all state polls.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:36 pm to JLivermore
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Notice how the earnest, non-troll opposition is mostly coming from PTers in their mid-late 30s to early-mid 40s. They came of age at a time where the war in Iraq will forever shape their opinions re: not ever wanting US involvement in the Middle East. In their eyes, Iraq '03= Iran '26 and that is that.
This is like the 2nd or 3rd biggest plank that Trump has run on in 2016, 2020, and 2024. You cant just brush off the 180 he's pulled in regards to military interventions in the middle east (especially Iran).
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:37 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Maybe I’m not “positioning myself never to be wrong” & maybe every decision Trump has made on Iran his last two terms… and this war… and your attempts to defend it… are just wrong
Yep. Iran would have played nice with the world if we woulda
Just stuck with peace in our time Obama and Biden. You’ve got this all figured out deathbydrivel. It’s Trump and me who are wrong. And this war.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:56 pm to jammajin
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Yep. Iran would have played nice with the world if we woulda Just stuck with
I love that you don’t see the irony of saying this immediately after asserting that regime change isn’t the goal. Iran will just play nice right?
Seriously pick a lane. Can’t debate someone who has no position.
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 9:57 pm
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