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re: Apollo 11 in Real Time
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:05 pm to dr smartass phd
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:05 pm to dr smartass phd
It’s impossible to get people through the Van Allen radiation belt. We didn’t go to the moon.
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:08 pm to weev
Ok, first. Do you know if the Van Alan belts are uniform in thickness and intensity?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:09 pm to dr smartass phd
0 to 11k feet per second in 4 1/2 minutes.
The engineering and resources behind this are, frankly, more impressive than the Manhattan project. The only things mankind has ever done approaching those in scope and impressiveness were, maybe the Giza Pyramids.
Maybe.
The engineering and resources behind this are, frankly, more impressive than the Manhattan project. The only things mankind has ever done approaching those in scope and impressiveness were, maybe the Giza Pyramids.
Maybe.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:11 pm to weev
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It’s impossible to get people through the Van Allen radiation belt.
FFS, not this shite again. Read a book.
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We didn’t go to the moon.
We (meaning U.S. manned flights) went to the Moon NINE times and landed SIX times, placing TWELVE different men on the surface.
Period. Full stop.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:14 pm to Ace Midnight
Ace you read like a fan of Conspiracy Catz. SPACE COMMA
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:17 pm to weev
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DirecTV goes down when a cloud is overhead but we live-streamed from the moon 50 years ago...
1 channel of standard def video to a world wide array of 30ft satellite dishes is not quite as cloud sensitive as 800 channels of HD to an 18 inch piece of plastic dish mounted on your trailer.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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Full stop
Where did this come from?
It's annoying, stupid and tries to control a conversation. Likely a liberal thing.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:32 pm to BuckyCheese
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It's annoying, stupid
Yes, flat earthers and Moon landing hoax enthusiasts are definitely those things.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:28 am to dr smartass phd
No cable tv on 1969 .
When I was a kid we had two tv stations in Baton Rouge. When they would sign on in the morning they would start the day with ... this is wafb or WBRZ broadcasting on a frequency of .... with a however many kilowatt generator blasting out a whopping 60 miles or so. You couldn’t get WWL tv out of New Orleans unless the weather was right and late at night and it was still snowy
Yet we are supposed to believe the astronauts sent a tv signal 240000 miles from the moon powered by a .....a CAR Battery .
Also where are these magnificent car batteries today. I bet some r v manufacturers would love them for motor homes to power the a c here on earth when it’s 95 degrees. I mean they worked so well cooling the lunar module on the moon where it’s 250 degrees , yet here on earth 50 years later ... you either plug in or run a generator .
When I was a kid we had two tv stations in Baton Rouge. When they would sign on in the morning they would start the day with ... this is wafb or WBRZ broadcasting on a frequency of .... with a however many kilowatt generator blasting out a whopping 60 miles or so. You couldn’t get WWL tv out of New Orleans unless the weather was right and late at night and it was still snowy
Yet we are supposed to believe the astronauts sent a tv signal 240000 miles from the moon powered by a .....a CAR Battery .
Also where are these magnificent car batteries today. I bet some r v manufacturers would love them for motor homes to power the a c here on earth when it’s 95 degrees. I mean they worked so well cooling the lunar module on the moon where it’s 250 degrees , yet here on earth 50 years later ... you either plug in or run a generator .
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:39 am to Heyes
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No cable tv on 1969 .
And there wasn't commercially viable satellite.
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You couldn’t get WWL tv out of New Orleans unless the weather was right and late at night and it was still snowy Yet we are supposed to believe the astronauts sent a tv signal 240000 miles from the moon powered by a .....a CAR Battery
Honestly, it is difficult to tell when some of you guys are trolling or if this is just abject ignorance on some of your parts, but let's just break down everything wrong with what you're saying.
FM works on radio line of sight. Assuming you're not also a Flat Earther, the Earth is quite obviously a flattened sphere. So, the tower has to be tall enough to get the signal to you over the horizon (unless something like tropo scatter, etc.)
As long as they weren't on the other side of the Moon (Loss of Signal), there was always line of sight from the Moon back to the Earth.
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Also where are these magnificent car batteries today.
You know there are electric cars and fusion cell powered UPS trucks and shite like that, right? Most of that technology can trace its roots back to Apollo and similar tech development of that era.
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I mean they worked so well cooling the lunar module on the moon where it’s 250 degrees
The program cost well over $100 billion in today's dollars.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 6:40 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:28 am to upgrayedd
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The amount of time it took to put that together must've been insane
Agree and what an incredible link
Could spend hours and hours watching that.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:11 am to Ace Midnight
You are missing the point ... let me see if I can explain it a little better .
Pampers is a product that came from the space program. There was a problem and nasa found a solution to that problem and the result were diapers that would soak up human waste . Almost immediately this product found its way into everyday life.
But if nasa had super batteries to power an air conditioner on the moon where it is 250 degrees these batteries would have made it into every r v and travel trailer and motor home manufacturer in the country . Yet today , 50 years later if you want to cool a motor home , is there a battery powered a c. ... no
Your two options are plug into a campgrounds electricity or run your generator .
If we had batteries this powerful in 1969 ., these would have made it into mainstream America by now. My conclusion from this not happening is ... we didn’t have batteries that could do that in the first place .
Pampers is a product that came from the space program. There was a problem and nasa found a solution to that problem and the result were diapers that would soak up human waste . Almost immediately this product found its way into everyday life.
But if nasa had super batteries to power an air conditioner on the moon where it is 250 degrees these batteries would have made it into every r v and travel trailer and motor home manufacturer in the country . Yet today , 50 years later if you want to cool a motor home , is there a battery powered a c. ... no
Your two options are plug into a campgrounds electricity or run your generator .
If we had batteries this powerful in 1969 ., these would have made it into mainstream America by now. My conclusion from this not happening is ... we didn’t have batteries that could do that in the first place .
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:45 am to griswold
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1 channel of standard def video to a world wide array of 30ft satellite dishes is not quite as cloud sensitive as 800 channels of HD to an 18 inch piece of plastic dish mounted on your trailer.
A lot of this is all line of sight and frequency.
Here is a little more about the camera. It was nowhere near what standard def we consider now.
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standard video camera of the day that transmitted 525 scan lines of data at 30 frames per second at 5 MHz. Instead, NASA would need a slow-scan camera optimized for a smaller format, 320 scan lines of data at 10 frames per second that could be transmitted at just 500 kHz.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:42 am to dr smartass phd
For the record, IMHO:
Apollo 11 mission was real. No fake.
JFK was probably assassinated by a rogue cabal of CIA/FBI or other mix of US FedGov Intelligence/Law Enfcmt folks who had some organized crime assistance.
Apollo 11 mission was real. No fake.
JFK was probably assassinated by a rogue cabal of CIA/FBI or other mix of US FedGov Intelligence/Law Enfcmt folks who had some organized crime assistance.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:57 am to dr smartass phd
I am sure this thread is just about dead but I’ll waste my time anyway correcting just a few of the comments I read so far.
The televised image of the moon landing was actually an earth-based news camera capturing the stream on a monitor in Houston; the stream was not directly sent out to televisions. The format and frame rates didn’t allow for direct streaming.
The preferred cooing system uses liquid ammonia; not practical for RV use.
Apollo missions used a combination of hydrogen/oxygen fuel cells to produce electricity and water; as well as RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) for additional power uses.
Trapped radiation of the Van Allen belts is comprised of energetic protons or electrons. These are easily shielded, relatively speaking, compared to galactic cosmic radiation found outside of Earth’s magnetosphere. Operational constraints can also reduce the dose in LEO, mainly beacuse the only area that really causes a concern during LEO is the south atlantic anomaly. Outside of LEO it is the GCR component that causes most of the accumulated dose.
The building at JSC that housed the astronauts post mission along with all the moon rocks and regolith is no longer being used (replaced by a new building that houses the Human Health and Performance Directorate) and is set to be demolished. That is a shame and should be a historical site much like the old Apollo mission control site.
The televised image of the moon landing was actually an earth-based news camera capturing the stream on a monitor in Houston; the stream was not directly sent out to televisions. The format and frame rates didn’t allow for direct streaming.
The preferred cooing system uses liquid ammonia; not practical for RV use.
Apollo missions used a combination of hydrogen/oxygen fuel cells to produce electricity and water; as well as RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) for additional power uses.
Trapped radiation of the Van Allen belts is comprised of energetic protons or electrons. These are easily shielded, relatively speaking, compared to galactic cosmic radiation found outside of Earth’s magnetosphere. Operational constraints can also reduce the dose in LEO, mainly beacuse the only area that really causes a concern during LEO is the south atlantic anomaly. Outside of LEO it is the GCR component that causes most of the accumulated dose.
The building at JSC that housed the astronauts post mission along with all the moon rocks and regolith is no longer being used (replaced by a new building that houses the Human Health and Performance Directorate) and is set to be demolished. That is a shame and should be a historical site much like the old Apollo mission control site.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:26 am to Heyes
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But if nasa had super batteries to power an air conditioner on the moon where it is 250 degrees these batteries would have made it into every r v and travel trailer and motor home manufacturer in the country .
Not if they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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If we had batteries this powerful in 1969 ., these would have made it into mainstream America by now.
Not completely unreasonable, but between cost, complexity of manufacture (much of this was highly specialized and difficult to replicate) and the potential that some of the applications were (and remain) classified, I see other reasonable explanations.
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we didn’t have batteries that could do that in the first place .
Well, we obviously did. There aren't enough yoga classes or Coast-to-Coast AM broadcasts to negate the obvious and overwhelming evidence that we did all the things the Apollo program is credited with.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:39 am to TheLSUriot
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:39 am to TheLSUriot
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TheLSUriot
Get the hell outta here with your facts and fancy arse information.
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