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re: Anyone watching the carrier on fire right now?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:30 pm to DesScorp
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:30 pm to DesScorp
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Not even close.
Burke Class Destroyer, Flight III: 9500 tons displacement
WWII Baltimore Class Heavy Cruiser: 17000 tons displacement
I'm talking actual size, not what it weighs.
Jesus....
Is an Iowa class over 5 times the size of Burke? Only in displacement. It sure isn't 5 times as long or wide.
But since you want to go there, a Zumwalt class destroyer displaces almost 16,000 tons while a WWII era Portland class heavy cruiser was under 10,000.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 3:48 pm
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:32 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
It's not a carrier, but an amphibious assault ship (LHD), aka "Gator Freighter."
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:33 pm to BuckyCheese
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But since you want to go there, a Zumwalt class destroyer displaces almost 16,000 tons while a WWII era Portland class heavy cruiser was under 10,000.
The Portlands could at least be useful ships. The zumwalts are a waste of money
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:33 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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The navy is the most shoddily run branch of the military. From lowest enlisted all the way to the Secretary of the Navy.
It's the most woke, which is killing it.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:38 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Class 4 fires are tough to extinguish.
See the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War.
See the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:49 pm to geauxtigers87
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The Portlands could at least be useful ships. The zumwalts are a waste of money
One hit by a missle, or even a shell from an Iowa, and the Zumwalt is done.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:16 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Ship board fire fighting is a chore. Everyone that embarks on a ship has to have some rudimentary fire fighting training. I have embarked on LSDs, LHDs, LSDs and one ancient LST.
Supposedly most of the crew was off because it was undergoing maintenance and it was Sunday. Not sure what the fixed firefighting system is in the spaces CO2, foam. But they usually disconnect the CO2 in a shipyard to avoid an accidental discharge.
More than likely the fire watch wasn’t doing their job.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:29 pm to SeaBass23
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More than likely the fire watch wasn’t doing their job.
That's exactly what happened and it's why the Navy is being quiet. They don't want the world to know the type of employee they're hiring to perform work on our fleet when in port. Bottom of the deepest barrel.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:30 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
All these flashy ships and Piss poor infrastructure and people to service them.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:34 pm to geauxtigers87
If it had happened on a normal day with the majority of the crew being there as opposed to those just on duty, it likely wouldn't have even been a national story because it would have been identified and extinguished very quickly.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:36 pm to LSUJML
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Think he just said a million gallons of fuel
That answers the guy's question - carrier fuel doesn't come in gallons.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:08 pm to LSUAlum2001
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See the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War.
Thank you, John McCain.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:51 pm to gthog61
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That answers the guy's question - carrier fuel doesn't come in gallons.
I spent 5 years refueling Navy ships at sea and we definitely used gallons. The JFK was the only carrier that used DFM for their propulsion. But we would send thousands of gallons of JP5 for carriers to fuel the planes.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:05 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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If it had happened on a normal day with the majority of the crew being there as opposed to those just on duty, it likely wouldn't have even been a national story because it would have been identified and extinguished very quickly.
Let's be real. Anyone who has ever served on a Navy ship while in port knows that everyone shows up for Sunday duty with a massive hangover and tries to find a spot to hide and watch football or take a nap. No one expects shite like this to happen and a Sunday skeleton crew would struggle to fight this kind of fire. This is how we got to this result.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:15 pm to BuckyCheese
Honestly, at this far into it, I'm surprised they haven't sent down divers to capsize the ship....
Refloat her once the fire is out which wouldn't be too long. The amount of metal fatigue, warping, and smoke damage at this point has made that ship scrap.
Refloat her once the fire is out which wouldn't be too long. The amount of metal fatigue, warping, and smoke damage at this point has made that ship scrap.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 6:17 pm
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