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re: Anyone still want to argue whether illegals voted?

Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:45 am to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:45 am to
bookmarked - thx

even better than the article I cited

Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:50 am to
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When the far left began insinuating that the Russians had hacked the election, the media treated the nonsupported claims with the utmost of respect. They still do. But not Trump's suggestion that illegals voted, and in large numbers, mainly for Democratic candidates
Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:52 am to
All northern states.


I just don't see how eventually our country doesn't totally and literally divide.
Just seems the gap is widening more and more.
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:55 am to
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It's based on a study done by some profs from old dominion and George Mason university.

Here is the abstract and a few graphs. LINK



Do you have the full text?
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:00 am to
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I just don't see how eventually our country doesn't totally and literally divide. Just seems the gap is widening more and more.


Obama did that. I didn't hate liberals before he was elected, and nothing changed about them except him giving them everything they could ever want. It's time for them to be reigned back in. They are clearly not suited to being a majority, they just want to march and bitch about someone else in charge. I guess if the 60's had hippies, the 10's have the giant pussies.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:16 am to
Trump opening an investigation into voter fraud. All of this winning. I can't stop grinning.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:55 am to
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and you think people trying to hide from the law would risk voting by the millions.


How about this - I'm not even sure the illegals themselves showed up to vote. But their registrations (automatic in many of these sanctuary jurisdictions that issue them DLs/ID cards) were likely have been used in some capacity by vote farmers - almost exclusively local Democrat party machines.

That's how 102% of registered voters in some precincts show up and vote D.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:02 am to
I would be more surprised if someone didn't "debunk" that study. Every study that counters liberal hive mind has been "debunked" by a liberal. I'll say it again: quibble about the number, but lets not pretend that illegals aren't voting. Illegals themselves have admitted to voting in US elections and dem contractors were caught on tape discussing their use in swing states.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:05 am to
No. IBD did an article based on the study, but you have to pay for the full paper to access it on the web.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25666 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:17 am to
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the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.


Which is exactly what was claimed arse hat.

1-3 million is approximately 0-3%
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:30 am to
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Twelve states issue driver's licenses to illegals.


WHY THE FRICK IS THIS BEING ALLOWED TO HAPPEN??????
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42064 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:09 am to
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First, standard driver's licenses should never be issued to illegals. They have violated our immigration law and are criminals and should be deported. Second, legal immigrations for instance with green cards should be issued provisional licenses that identifies their status along with a limited duration that coincides with their immigration status.


Exactly
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:41 am to
California voter registration form. Not sure if this is the current one or not, since they changed the motor voter law to automatically register you to vote if you get a DL.

At the top of the page, it asks if you are a citizen, no proof required.



This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:45 am to
The question isn't whether or not voting fraud occurs. It's that we need to know exactly the mechanisms that are in place that are allowing it to occur. That's why simple assertions do no good. They have to be followed with action or they're worthless. You all know this.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:51 am to
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Eleven states and the District of Columbia now allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses, which are different in appearance from those issued to citizens. In California, noncitizen licenses carry the words “Federal Limits Apply” and “not valid for official federal purposes,” according to DriveCA.org.

In California, however, state officials “specifically chose not to make noncitizen license holders searchable in their DMV database,” said True the Vote spokesman Logan Churchwell, who called the newly signed bill “unprecedented.”


LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:06 pm to
This is from the mall shooter investigation in Oregon. Sounds like an invitation to voter fraud.
quote:

While voters must attest to citizenship upon registering online or registering to vote at the Department of Licensing Office, Washington state doesn't require proof of citizenship. Therefore elections officials say the state's elections system operates, more or less, under an honor system.

"We don’t have a provision in state law that allows us either county elections officials or the Secretary of State's office to verify someone’s citizenship," explained Secretary of State Kim Wyman.
"So, we’re in this place where we want to make sure we’re maintaining people’s confidence in the elections and the integrity of the process, but also that we’re giving this individual, like we would any voter, his due process. We’re moving forward, and that investigation is really coming out of the investigation from the shootings." 
LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:15 pm to
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so let me get this straight, its hard enough to get regular people to vote and you think people trying to hide from the law would risk voting by the millions. 

If you were an illegal immigrant, and Hillary was promising amnesty and citizenship for you, and you lived in a state that didn't require proof of citizenship to register to vote, would you register and vote for her?

Obama even told them that no one would be coming for them if they voted.

I know I would.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:21 pm to
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They all stipulate that you must be a US citizen to vote.
Do they require proof of citizenship?

If not, then it's ripe for fraud. We all know this.

Might as well ask them if they ever exceed the speed limit or drive after having a drink.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Nope he didn't.
quote:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the Millennials, DREAMers, undocumented citizens — and I call them “citizens” ’cause they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true.

WTF do you call this?

You fricking retard.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14984 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:53 pm to
California requires its Sec of State office to verify citizenship of anyone who registers to vote. That wording is written into the new CA voter registration law.
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