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Anyone Really Believe the "Wrong Button" Theory?

Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:08 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:08 am
There is no fricking way that someone pressed the "wrong button" and sent out an EBS for a nuclear attack. This is 2018. Is there some big arse red button sitting on the desk or something?

However the "button" works, there is absolutely no way there aren't fail safes built into the system - at least where nuclear attacks are concerned (maybe for a tornado there's not, I don't know). Are we supposed to believe some dude was surfing OT_Lounge in his office in Hawaii when he accidentally fat fingered a nuclear attack warning? Besides, if he pressed the "wrong button" what fricking button was he trying to press? I assume he was trying to alert Hawaii to something. If so, what?

So, I see a few possibilities (from most likely to least likely):

1) Someone who has access to Hawaii's EBS is a prankster who did it for lulz and should be fired and/or jailed.

2) Someone hacked into the system remotely. Russia? China? Another state actor? If so, that's bad.

3) Our government really DID think there was a missile incoming when there wasn't. In order to save face (and not reveal our frick up to our enemies), they pretended it was a "wrong button" press. This kind of thing happened in the Cold War back in the day I am pretty sure (In 1983 a Soviet early warning satellite falsely reported that the U.S. was launching missiles. The Soviets almost launched at us in retaliation, but one guy named Petrov inside the missile silo declined to launch because he said there was no way America would launch only a few missiles if they were going to strike first. Yes, one man saved the world).

4) NK really did launch "something" but we zapped it from space (or used some other counter-measures from land or sea to ground it). EBS was sent out just in case our counter-measures failed. The only reason they didn't admit it to the press is because our counter-measures are classified and they didn't want the press inquiring. (By the way, I know for a fact we do have such counter-measures)

5) Some rogue and malicious actors are in control from the inside and are trying to frick with Trump. Obama's minions, Soros, and McCuckster up to no good.

6) If you believe the QAnon conspiracy theory, it was a "warning" from Trump to the deep state. Or it was a "dog whistle" of sorts from Trump to his allies inside the military to commence some sort of operation against the deep state.

7) Aliens.

Any other ideas?
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:09 am to
They already announced it was a mistake.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17015 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:19 am to
quote:

They already announced it was a mistake.



How is: "There is a nuclear missile incoming. THIS IS NOT A DRILL" a fricking mistake? Do you really believe someone "hit the wrong button?"

I don't know how EBS works, but I do know that nuclear launches (on our side at least) have several layers of sophisticated authorization procedures with multiple people involved and launch codes sent from the president himself.

I get it, EBS is not a nuclear silo, but still there should be fail safes built into a system that shuts down an entire state in fear that a missile is 20 minutes away.



Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:29 am to
quote:

Anyone Really Believe the "Wrong Button" Theory?


IDK what happened. I doubt it is "accidental".
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:31 am to
I have heard there is a 5 button/switch procedure fail safe, and then a commanding officer has to give the ok for the last button to pressed to send that alert out. The possibility of it being an accident is basically 0.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:41 am to
I don't know, but the story that someone accidently hit a SINGLE button during a shift change certainly sounds like bullshite.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42575 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:12 am to
quote:

I have heard there is a 5 button/switch procedure fail safe, and then a commanding officer has to give the ok for the last button to pressed to send that alert out. The possibility of it being an accident is basically 0.


I have total confidence that even in a shithole like Hawaii, they would have had something more than a "press this button to cause mass panic' accessible to low level techs with their thoughts wandering to waxing their surfboards.

If the state of Hawaii has produced this level of a warning system, their statehood should be revoked and they should be turned into nothing more than a tourist spot.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:24 am to
You didn't know that the buttons are configured like a radio channel panel in your car? There are 12 buttons on a grid and it's real easy to fat finger the wrong one. The "Engage Nuclear Aleet" button is next to the "Employee Log Out" button. Easy to see how this little mistake occurred.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:29 am to
I think this was definitely a political move to make Hawaiians uneasy.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42575 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:30 am to
quote:

You didn't know that the buttons are configured like a radio channel panel in your car? There are 12 buttons on a grid and it's real easy to fat finger the wrong one. The "Engage Nuclear Aleet" button is next to the "Employee Log Out" button. Easy to see how this little mistake occurred.


If you believe what the DEMOCRAT governor of the DEMOCRAT controlled 'state' of Hawaii said, then you have to believe their alert system is of that order of 'fail safe.'

You also have to believe that it was designed by some starving homeless felon being released from jail who won a 'lottery' giving them the honor of choosing the input for the next step in their civil alert program.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:34 am to
Why wasn’t the alarm part of the national defense system.take the responsibility away from the state and give it to DOD
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42575 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:43 am to
quote:

Why wasn’t the alarm part of the national defense system.take the responsibility away from the state and give it to DOD


My first thought on hearing the news was that it had originated from the national defense network.

I was amazed that the state had the capability to launch a "incoming missile" alert. Do they have an independent over-the- horizon tracking capability??

None of this makes any sense to me.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:48 am to
Most likely.
quote:

3) Our government really DID think there was a missile incoming when there wasn't. In order to save face (and not reveal our frick up to our enemies), they pretended it was a "wrong button" press. This kind of thing happened in the Cold War back in the day I am pretty sure (In 1983 a Soviet early warning satellite falsely reported that the U.S. was launching missiles. The Soviets almost launched at us in retaliation, but one guy named Petrov inside the missile silo declined to launch because he said there was no way America would launch only a few missiles if they were going to strike first. Yes, one man saved the world).
Most dangerous.
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4) NK really did launch "something" but we zapped it from space (or used some other counter-measures from land or sea to ground it). EBS was sent out just in case our counter-measures failed. The only reason they didn't admit it to the press is because our counter-measures are classified and they didn't want the press inquiring. (By the way, I know for a fact we do have such counter-measures)
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131368 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:55 am to
Maybe there was a middle and Reagan’s Star Wars defense system took it out?

That’s actually the most plausible explanation.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9140 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:01 am to
quote:

2) Someone hacked into the system remotely. Russia? China? Another state actor? If so, that's bad.


This is most probably what happened with NK being the hackers.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:05 am to




Sooo........


NK actually launches an attack and we don’t respond? That’s a possibility?
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 7:11 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24649 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:09 am to
quote:

They already announced it was a mistake.



"You can keep your doctor"


Newsflash proggie.... the government lies.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:10 am to
quote:

Maybe there was a middle and Reagan’s Star Wars defense system took it out?

That’s actually the most plausible explanation



And we just let them get away with it? I don’t buy that.
Posted by geauxtigersgirl
Member since Aug 2016
1314 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:12 am to
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This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:13 am to
quote:

They already announced it was a mistake.
The contortions you have to go through to be you. Impressive.
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