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Anyone Really Believe the "Wrong Button" Theory?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:08 am
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:08 am
There is no fricking way that someone pressed the "wrong button" and sent out an EBS for a nuclear attack. This is 2018. Is there some big arse red button sitting on the desk or something?
However the "button" works, there is absolutely no way there aren't fail safes built into the system - at least where nuclear attacks are concerned (maybe for a tornado there's not, I don't know). Are we supposed to believe some dude was surfing OT_Lounge in his office in Hawaii when he accidentally fat fingered a nuclear attack warning? Besides, if he pressed the "wrong button" what fricking button was he trying to press? I assume he was trying to alert Hawaii to something. If so, what?
So, I see a few possibilities (from most likely to least likely):
1) Someone who has access to Hawaii's EBS is a prankster who did it for lulz and should be fired and/or jailed.
2) Someone hacked into the system remotely. Russia? China? Another state actor? If so, that's bad.
3) Our government really DID think there was a missile incoming when there wasn't. In order to save face (and not reveal our frick up to our enemies), they pretended it was a "wrong button" press. This kind of thing happened in the Cold War back in the day I am pretty sure (In 1983 a Soviet early warning satellite falsely reported that the U.S. was launching missiles. The Soviets almost launched at us in retaliation, but one guy named Petrov inside the missile silo declined to launch because he said there was no way America would launch only a few missiles if they were going to strike first. Yes, one man saved the world).
4) NK really did launch "something" but we zapped it from space (or used some other counter-measures from land or sea to ground it). EBS was sent out just in case our counter-measures failed. The only reason they didn't admit it to the press is because our counter-measures are classified and they didn't want the press inquiring. (By the way, I know for a fact we do have such counter-measures)
5) Some rogue and malicious actors are in control from the inside and are trying to frick with Trump. Obama's minions, Soros, and McCuckster up to no good.
6) If you believe the QAnon conspiracy theory, it was a "warning" from Trump to the deep state. Or it was a "dog whistle" of sorts from Trump to his allies inside the military to commence some sort of operation against the deep state.
7) Aliens.
Any other ideas?
However the "button" works, there is absolutely no way there aren't fail safes built into the system - at least where nuclear attacks are concerned (maybe for a tornado there's not, I don't know). Are we supposed to believe some dude was surfing OT_Lounge in his office in Hawaii when he accidentally fat fingered a nuclear attack warning? Besides, if he pressed the "wrong button" what fricking button was he trying to press? I assume he was trying to alert Hawaii to something. If so, what?
So, I see a few possibilities (from most likely to least likely):
1) Someone who has access to Hawaii's EBS is a prankster who did it for lulz and should be fired and/or jailed.
2) Someone hacked into the system remotely. Russia? China? Another state actor? If so, that's bad.
3) Our government really DID think there was a missile incoming when there wasn't. In order to save face (and not reveal our frick up to our enemies), they pretended it was a "wrong button" press. This kind of thing happened in the Cold War back in the day I am pretty sure (In 1983 a Soviet early warning satellite falsely reported that the U.S. was launching missiles. The Soviets almost launched at us in retaliation, but one guy named Petrov inside the missile silo declined to launch because he said there was no way America would launch only a few missiles if they were going to strike first. Yes, one man saved the world).
4) NK really did launch "something" but we zapped it from space (or used some other counter-measures from land or sea to ground it). EBS was sent out just in case our counter-measures failed. The only reason they didn't admit it to the press is because our counter-measures are classified and they didn't want the press inquiring. (By the way, I know for a fact we do have such counter-measures)
5) Some rogue and malicious actors are in control from the inside and are trying to frick with Trump. Obama's minions, Soros, and McCuckster up to no good.
6) If you believe the QAnon conspiracy theory, it was a "warning" from Trump to the deep state. Or it was a "dog whistle" of sorts from Trump to his allies inside the military to commence some sort of operation against the deep state.
7) Aliens.
Any other ideas?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:09 am to AUstar
They already announced it was a mistake.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:19 am to RFK
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They already announced it was a mistake.
How is: "There is a nuclear missile incoming. THIS IS NOT A DRILL" a fricking mistake? Do you really believe someone "hit the wrong button?"
I don't know how EBS works, but I do know that nuclear launches (on our side at least) have several layers of sophisticated authorization procedures with multiple people involved and launch codes sent from the president himself.
I get it, EBS is not a nuclear silo, but still there should be fail safes built into a system that shuts down an entire state in fear that a missile is 20 minutes away.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:29 am to AUstar
quote:
Anyone Really Believe the "Wrong Button" Theory?
IDK what happened. I doubt it is "accidental".
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:31 am to AUstar
I have heard there is a 5 button/switch procedure fail safe, and then a commanding officer has to give the ok for the last button to pressed to send that alert out. The possibility of it being an accident is basically 0.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:41 am to AUstar
I don't know, but the story that someone accidently hit a SINGLE button during a shift change certainly sounds like bullshite.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:12 am to russellvillehog
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I have heard there is a 5 button/switch procedure fail safe, and then a commanding officer has to give the ok for the last button to pressed to send that alert out. The possibility of it being an accident is basically 0.
I have total confidence that even in a shithole like Hawaii, they would have had something more than a "press this button to cause mass panic' accessible to low level techs with their thoughts wandering to waxing their surfboards.
If the state of Hawaii has produced this level of a warning system, their statehood should be revoked and they should be turned into nothing more than a tourist spot.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:24 am to ChineseBandit58
You didn't know that the buttons are configured like a radio channel panel in your car? There are 12 buttons on a grid and it's real easy to fat finger the wrong one. The "Engage Nuclear Aleet" button is next to the "Employee Log Out" button. Easy to see how this little mistake occurred.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:29 am to AUstar
I think this was definitely a political move to make Hawaiians uneasy.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:30 am to Dick Leverage
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You didn't know that the buttons are configured like a radio channel panel in your car? There are 12 buttons on a grid and it's real easy to fat finger the wrong one. The "Engage Nuclear Aleet" button is next to the "Employee Log Out" button. Easy to see how this little mistake occurred.
If you believe what the DEMOCRAT governor of the DEMOCRAT controlled 'state' of Hawaii said, then you have to believe their alert system is of that order of 'fail safe.'
You also have to believe that it was designed by some starving homeless felon being released from jail who won a 'lottery' giving them the honor of choosing the input for the next step in their civil alert program.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:34 am to ChineseBandit58
Why wasn’t the alarm part of the national defense system.take the responsibility away from the state and give it to DOD
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:43 am to bigwheel
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Why wasn’t the alarm part of the national defense system.take the responsibility away from the state and give it to DOD
My first thought on hearing the news was that it had originated from the national defense network.
I was amazed that the state had the capability to launch a "incoming missile" alert. Do they have an independent over-the- horizon tracking capability??
None of this makes any sense to me.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:48 am to AUstar
Most likely.
quote:Most dangerous.
3) Our government really DID think there was a missile incoming when there wasn't. In order to save face (and not reveal our frick up to our enemies), they pretended it was a "wrong button" press. This kind of thing happened in the Cold War back in the day I am pretty sure (In 1983 a Soviet early warning satellite falsely reported that the U.S. was launching missiles. The Soviets almost launched at us in retaliation, but one guy named Petrov inside the missile silo declined to launch because he said there was no way America would launch only a few missiles if they were going to strike first. Yes, one man saved the world).
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4) NK really did launch "something" but we zapped it from space (or used some other counter-measures from land or sea to ground it). EBS was sent out just in case our counter-measures failed. The only reason they didn't admit it to the press is because our counter-measures are classified and they didn't want the press inquiring. (By the way, I know for a fact we do have such counter-measures)
Posted on 1/14/18 at 6:55 am to AUstar
Maybe there was a middle and Reagan’s Star Wars defense system took it out?
That’s actually the most plausible explanation.
That’s actually the most plausible explanation.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:01 am to AUstar
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2) Someone hacked into the system remotely. Russia? China? Another state actor? If so, that's bad.
This is most probably what happened with NK being the hackers.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:05 am to AUstar
Sooo........
NK actually launches an attack and we don’t respond? That’s a possibility?
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 7:11 am
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:09 am to RFK
quote:
They already announced it was a mistake.
"You can keep your doctor"
Newsflash proggie.... the government lies.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:10 am to Rebel
quote:
Maybe there was a middle and Reagan’s Star Wars defense system took it out?
That’s actually the most plausible explanation
And we just let them get away with it? I don’t buy that.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:12 am to AUstar
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This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:13 am to RFK
quote:The contortions you have to go through to be you. Impressive.
They already announced it was a mistake.
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