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Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:59 am to Toroballistic
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Yet I have WWI and WWII books written by Germans, Napoleonic Wars books by French authors, Vietnam books by American authors, etc.
Because genocide and mass slavery was the normal treatment throughout most of human history towards the losers until relatively recently.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:01 pm to TigerNlc
I love history; especially 20th century history. The last history course I took in school would have been in 1999. I wouldn’t say that what history I was taught in middle and high school and in college was necessarily false, but I’ve learned that we were not always getting the whole story.
I can’t really comment with authority on what the schools are churning out today history-wise.
I can’t really comment with authority on what the schools are churning out today history-wise.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:02 pm to LSUfan20005
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The Ukraine thing makes me wonder if the entire Cold War was a lie.
To a degree...Dr Strangelove pointed out the backchannelling going on as well as how little real power the leaders had...
Most reports are what they wanted people to know
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:05 pm to Liberator
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Anyone questioning the history they were taught in school?
"No bc I like reading the truth"
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I think your context may have been misinterpreted.
With 13 DV it was
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School: NOT real "History"
YOU: Finding truth ELSEWHERE
I'm 62 I was taught the truth not the bullshite today
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:10 pm to saints5021
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Another thing regarding history is that fables have a way of working their way into real history. Ask the average American about Washington and the cherry tree or Betty Ross and the flag. These are both 100% fabrications, yet most children are taught this in school.
Yup...
Those cute stories (likely partial or anecdotal truths) -- they aren't taught anymore, are they? And then there was "Honest Abe" for another.
Speaking of "fables" -- and a Big Modern Day Fable...
The following nutshell hardwired revisionist "social narrative" establishes justification for demonizing their "opposition", serving as preparation. (supporting a very dark agenda in the near future). Today's programmed hate & revenge and self-loathing = tomorrow's dirty work of the Globalists):
(2022) NEA- Public Schools - Academia :
History 101
Teacher Directions: Single print-out. Student shall have one hour to read. Await reaction.
"The ONLY Conquerors and Slave-Traders in the entire 5,000 year annuls of recorded history was committed by ONLY one single ethnicity of human being. NO OTHER GROUP(s) in history BUT these devils. They have deprived the rest of humanity of our rightful UTOPIA! Do the right-thing and self-loathe yourself if you are born as their Descendant."
History Grade: A
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:14 pm to Fells
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Terrible analogy. We didn't fight against a German Republic that happened to be controlled by one political party through real elections.
We fought against a fascist Nazi state that didn't allow for change in government or rival political parties/expression.
No one is disagreeing with or dismissing what you just wrote (which is spot on, btw).
You still misinterpreted the original poster's context. (It's no great sin -- we all whiff now and then).
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:20 pm to Liberator
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I'm 62 I was taught the truth not the bull shite today
lol. None of us were taught the truth. I’m 51 and the “happy go lucky” slaves and “didn’t know what to do when they were freed and were treated well by their masters” was part of my southern education. As much a lie as anything taught today.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:23 pm to Liberator
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We fought against a fascist Nazi state that didn't allow for change in government or rival political parties/expression.
True. What I meant was not all Germans were hardcore, evil NAZIs. Some of the thousands of German NAZI Party scientist, we brought over, after the war, via "Paperclip" were.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:25 pm to Dawgfanman
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lol. None of us were taught the truth. I’m 51 and the “happy go lucky” slaves and “didn’t know what to do when they were freed and were treated well by their masters” was part of my southern education. As much a lie as anything taught today.
I’m a few years older than you and grew up in the Florida panhandle and I never heard that.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:26 pm to bamarep
at least 17 different sections
is turning out to be 100% correct as well
is turning out to be 100% correct as well
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:27 pm to Dawgfanman
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I’m 51 and the “happy go lucky” slaves and “didn’t know what to do when they were freed and were treated well by their masters” was part of my southern education.
I wasn't taught this
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:29 pm to TigerNlc
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Anyone questioning the history they were taught in school?
God no. I didn’t enter US public schools til 8th grade on a regular basis. I benefited from international schools and tutors that had zero vested interest in falsifying history.
Don’t let the modern Brownshirts fool you, our history is not slavery and oppression.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:30 pm to kingbob
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What if I told you that the Americas were a major player in world affairs during the bronze age? What if I told you that the Smithsonian has actively repressed and destroyed evidence of old world contact with the new world prior to 1492? Egyptian pharaohs had chocolate, tobacco, boomerangs, and coffee in their tombs. Inca, California native tribes, and Polynesians share some of the same words, foods, and boat construction techniques. Carthage and Rome had far larger sea-going ships than did Columbus. The Americas are absolutely littered with ruins of advanced civilizations that completely defy the historical narrative.
According to the Smithsonian, there was only one civilization in the Americas that learned to smelt bronze, and that was the Inca who had discovered it only recently when the Spanish arrived.
None of that would surprise me but like all things I would look at it with a critical eye and try to determine the truth as best as possible. No doubt the further you go back in history the easier it is to have replaced it. Clearly there are a lot of connections to South America and Europe especially that we don't really know or understand. Spain and Portugal that dominated that region certainly had no qualms about destroying culture or rewriting history.
As an aside few things crack me up as much as how Hispanic culture is good while "White European" culture is bad. WTF do you think Hispanic culture is based on? It sure as hell isn't the Natives, it's based on Spain and Portugal.
If you go to Rome you can see the history on top of history. You can see the randomness on how this building was saved and this was not because someone at the time decided to make it go from a temple to a church or you see how huge parts of history are based on finding one artifact and making that artifact the basis of so much history. It was common in the past to destroy everything having to do with past rulers and to even make saying their name a crime (and most crimes had one penalty).
I am always open minded but also skeptical on all sides, accepting that we will never know the full truth about many if not most things. It's just that acceptance is very difficult for most people. If they are not intellectual it is reassuring to feel solid that what they know is truth. If they are deeply intellectual it is difficult for them to accept that what they are convinced is right is wrong because it makes them feel stupid. I prefer to just accept we are all human and flawed by nature and that few things are clear cut.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:42 pm to bamarep
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Know your role around here sport.
I went into that thread you keep bringing up....made one post...and that's the response I was basically given. You folks are not smarter or deeper thinkers than everyone else like y'all seem to believe.
So yeah...I have no problem with that thread being gone...at all. Take all the space-based high energy blasts destroying stored voting machines and 3 Gorges Dam talk and starfort theories and have fun with all that.
Maybe my role is to tell you folks it's time to move on.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:49 pm to Wtodd
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I'm 62 I was taught the truth not the bullshite today
True, you were taught different types of bullshite mixed with different types of truth.
I remember when I was in school FDR and especially JFK were saints. My teachers talked about the JFK assassination and how beloved he was over and over. I remember one time after a teacher went on about it saying, "My parents really didn't like him and didn't vote for him." The stare I got from her was a lesson to me in how these folks react to their narrative being questioned. We were taught the New Deal ended the Great Depression when it clearly just extended it and it didn't end until WW2.
They did used to actually discuss facts about the Civil War compared to today but it was still biased. Can you imagine for instance a movie like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" being made today? Even "Gods and Generals" or other stories that showed that many folks in the South were actually very noble and had good intent.
One of my favorite things is to ask someone how many narratives don't make sense regarding the Civil War because Texas seceded to join the Confederacy. Texas had only joined the US 16 years before, that would be the equivalent of 2006. It was an independent country prior to that. Texas was a slave state but had the fewest slaves of any Confederate state. The Union didn't ban slavery either, it was still legal in Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri. You have to really twist in a logic pretzel to justify most "the Civil War was about slavery!" narratives to make that work.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:50 pm to AUauditor
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The winners write the history books.
The gov says they are doing something for a reason that will rally the American public to their cause, but the real underlying reason is never mentioned. Transparency my arse.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:04 pm to LookSquirrel
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What I meant was not all Germans were hardcore, evil NAZIs. Some of the thousands of German NAZI Party scientist, we brought over, after the war, via "Paperclip" were.
Absolutely. This works too as further clarification. Your "Dems" /= ALL American broadbrush context also worked of course.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:09 pm to TigerNlc
quote:Give me an example and will try to tell you what I remember being taught. History was one of my favorite subjects so I will be honest in my answer. DISCLAIMER: you might be right but I don't hear what people say happened because I do not watch the news. This place and REDState Morning and afternoon give me my news.
Anyone questioning the history they were taught in school?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:13 pm to TigerNlc
I think out of Africa is false.
East Africa is a good place to look for fossils because of the terrain. So that’s where we find these fossils. It also politically correct.
It’s also a Western belief. The Chinese, not surprisingly, believe we emerged in China
East Africa is a good place to look for fossils because of the terrain. So that’s where we find these fossils. It also politically correct.
It’s also a Western belief. The Chinese, not surprisingly, believe we emerged in China
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