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re: Anybody watching Waco on Netflix?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:25 pm to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:25 pm to DyeHardDylan
i watched it on a base overseas live on CNN headline news. I remember seeing the tanks bust in and burn them all and the house and thinking wtf wtf.
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:29 pm to imjustafatkid
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:35 pm to NIH
quote:frick outta here with that.
plenty of “conservatives” here will defend the FBI and ATF because they back the blue
The ATF fricked the dog. And badly. Their inside undercover guy told them not to proceed, that Koresh had been tipped off and was ready for a fight...
And they gave the green light anyway, which was a direct defiance of the "circumstantial stand-down" order which was a contingency plan handed down directly from the White House.
None of those deaths would have happened, period. The ATF has barrels of blood on their hands.
The Eff Bee Eye could have put Koresh on 24/7 surveillance and nabbed him at Walmart or Dollar General, and it would have all gone down quietly.
Shot callers that day should have been publicly drawn and quartered.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:36 pm to imjustafatkid
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didn't know this until just now. Puts what he did into an entirely different context.
Yup, he got radicalized after the gulf war and then Ruby Ridge turned him onto the anti-govt cause and there’s news footage of him selling bumper stickers at Waco
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:37 pm to Rammin TX
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My daughter goes to Baylor.
Mine, too.
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I took her out there her freshmen year to visit the memorial.
Did the same thing.
Still hard to believe what the Guvment did to that place.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:38 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Their inside undercover guy told them not to proceed, that Koresh had been tipped off and was ready for a fight...
Is that 100% accurate... Genuinely curious.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:40 pm to TigerAxeOK
How did the people not have riots and all out anarchy over women and children being burned alive in the underground?
I was in high school when that happened, but I remember the coverage being 24/7 in TX.
I was in high school when that happened, but I remember the coverage being 24/7 in TX.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:41 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
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How did the people not have riots and all out anarchy over women and children being burned alive in the underground?
Timothy McViegh
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:44 pm to Rammin TX
No, I mean immediately after. It's the one time I would actually understand white people having their Ferguson moment.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:44 pm to CDawson
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Did the same thing.
Good for you. It was an eye opener for my daughter. She is majoring in Organic Chemistry with a minor in Forensics and wants to work for the FBI. She now knows what to be aware of....
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:46 pm to NIH
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Careful, plenty of “conservatives” here will defend the FBI and ATF because they back the blue
A true 'Conservative' will never defend corruption. The bloom is off the DOJ/Intel Community rose, NIH; from
Waco to Muh Russia, it's obvious that the extraordinary power up there corrupts' those who hold it. Power drunk Bureaucrats took it upon themselves to determine which women and children might die in service to the power broker's Ideological bent...and so...did McVeigh. Both were evil. But I hold those who were under Oath more responsible to serve Constitutional Principle than the emotion-driven, lone wolf, super patriot/terrorist McVeigh. "To whom much is given, much is required". I think McVeigh accepted responsibility for his murder...while the Bureaucrats never did. Jesus can decide the fate of both.
It's the same now for Obama/Brennan/Dem Party. They've abandoned Equal Justice/Rule of Law for Ideological ends. And there are a ton of 'Mcveighs' out there doing exactly what McVeigh did. Observe, and imagine. To the degree that Government abuses power...to that degree the reactionary powers will act.
Barr had better call out the corrupt, chastise the over zealous Ideologues, and prosecute those who remain unrepentant re criminal overreach to defeat Trump. Top to bottom. Elsewise, sooner or later, another 'Waco' will happen...and off we'll go down the road to perdition. And the Dem Party will rue the day that they abandoned Rule of Law, as a feeding frenzy of 'justice' and due recompense ensues.
I pray that wisdom prevails...but won't hold my breath. Egos are strong at that level.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:46 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
Media coverage stressed that the Branch Davidians were religious extremists, their words. They were seen as a doomsday cult.
I don’t remember a lot of outrage at the time.
I don’t remember a lot of outrage at the time.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:49 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Nah
Puts what he did into an entirely different context.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:50 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
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No, I mean immediately after
Media was actively promoting the government’s reaction as Koresh was a cult leader and abused children so they said. In reality they could have arrested him on his visits to the 7-11
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:50 pm to Lima Whiskey
Maybe it wasn't well known that children burned alive.
I'm a pretty dark person, but I find that extremely disturbing to have happened on US soil and because of the govt.
Then again, at those times, we didn't have SJW culture or social media to spawn IRT reactions.
I'm a pretty dark person, but I find that extremely disturbing to have happened on US soil and because of the govt.
Then again, at those times, we didn't have SJW culture or social media to spawn IRT reactions.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:51 pm to Lakeboy7
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Not really, he blew up a daycare among other things.
And this is different from what the government did at Waco...how, exactly?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:52 pm to Lsut81
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Yup, he got radicalized after the gulf war and then Ruby Ridge turned him onto the anti-govt cause and there’s news footage of him selling bumper stickers at Waco
Yeah I looked it up before posting because I just didn't believe it.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:54 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
The way I remembered it, they blamed Koresh for everything. It was his fault.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:02 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Media coverage stressed that the Branch Davidians were religious extremists, their words. They were seen as a doomsday cult. I don’t remember a lot of outrage at the time.
The MSM covered for Reno; and any decent lawyer can muddy the water re just how the attack flamed out. Bill bit his lip, and cried. And the Bureaucrats covered for their own. Like today...for 'the cause'. Same with the Catholic Church and Peds; Church 'cred'...was more important than honesty.
Oklahoma City was horrendous. The very worst. That tamped down the whole thing; everybody's blood lust was quenched...and everybody was ready to let it go. Just one of those ugly time of unintended consequences. Things snowball, and get out of hand very fast.
People like that idiot Governor up in Virginia, had better weigh their action. The folk are dialed in, and know what is at stake. Constitutional and GOD GIVEN RIGHTS...or a tyranny of the majority.
Earth 2020. Live and learn.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:03 pm to Lsut81
quote:Can't remember if the documentary I recently watched was on AHC, History or NatGeo, but they interviewed people who'd been involved with the situation directly... and they presented it as absolutely fact with multiple corroborating witnesses.
that 100% accurate... Genuinely curious.
There was enough evidence that I've seen, heard and read over the years, that you can't convince me otherwise. That documentary only strengthened and reaffirmed my belief.
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