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re: Any word on Iran giving up the enriched uranium?

Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:37 pm to
No, he never made that as one of his military objectives. He said he would like it, but not that the mission wouldn't be a success without it. There is a difference and if you can't see that you're more retarded than I thought.

Objectives:

- destroy Iran's ballistic missile capabilities (complete or nearly complete)
- annihilate Iran's Navy (done)
- prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon (done)
- sever Iran's support for terror proxies (done, they can't even communicate with their own internal forces at this point)

The above are the stated objectives when this began. He later added a few more. I'll list them below.

- completely degrade Iranian missile capability (offensive missiles, production, and launch infrastructure - done or being finished as we speak)
- destroy Irans defense industrial base (done, again, they can't stop us from doing whatever we want, we set up and air base in the heart of the country within hours of deciding to do it)
- eliminate their Navy and air force (done)
- ensure they never obtain a nuclear weapon (again, done)
- prevent them from continuing to arm and fund terror proxies (done. They can't communicate with their own troops at this point)

I'm sure you'll argue these points, but anyone who has been paying attention knows this is correct. You are making up objectives and trying to claim they haven't been met. Because you are a retarded dick sucker.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:43 pm to
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But Trump seemed eager to downplay those details. “Yeah, and we want no enrichment, but we also want the enriched uranium. If this happens, it’s a great start for Iran to build itself back and it’s everything that we want



How does this equate to one of our laid out objectives?

I still want the enriched uranium
I think it should be one of our objectives.
That doesn’t make it so.

Anymore than people here saying we have to have regime change makes it one of the admins objectives.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:51 pm to
You are such a bitch. Give me links to Trumps on words to all of those “objectives” just as I did, not your revisionist version of history.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29263 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

At no point did we ever state we were going to be involved in regime change.


Does "we" include Trump?

quote:

At no point did we ever state closing the Strait was our goal.


No, Trump just looked like an a-hole when it happened then told them to "open the fricking strait". He then said our allies could open it themselves.

quote:


You are imagining objectives.


If regime change and capturing uranium aren't objectives...then what the frick are we doing?

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36708 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:03 pm to
You ought to seek out a repository of information where someone actually knows what they’re talking about, so basically anywhere other than here. All you’re going to find here is affirmation of what you clearly already believe, which is that nothing productive was accomplished. When somebody here tells you “Of course they didn’t receive in turn not one thimble full of enriched uranium - which you already believe, so y’all will high five and maybe even double nickel. But the strange reality is that none of you, nor myself, nor anyone else here, knows the situation on that, as of this moment.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:08 pm to
Fair enough. You are correct.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:15 pm to
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You are such a bitch. Give me links to Trumps on words to all of those “objectives” just as I did,


So yes, even more retarded than I thought. You can't even understand the shite you posted yourself.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:27 pm to
You can’t substantiate your position. You listed a bunch of things that have happened, or allegedly happened as the objectives.

You likely cannot understand this, but what you listed would be considered KPIs, key performance indicators. KPIs are not objectives, though they can indicate aspects of objectives.

In the links I provided, getting the enriched uranium and eliminating the regime, in Trump’s words, where clearly objectives.

We know they didn’t eliminate the regime, even though Trump claims they have because the leader’s son took over.

We may find out that a part of the deal was securing the enriched unranium, but that’s highly unlikely, because Trump in his own words recently stated that it’s buried and they aren’t worried about it…i.e., he flip-flopped.

What did we accomplish? At least 6 Americans are dead, many others injured, billions expended, relationships damaged across the world…and it’s possible there may be a fee for passing through the Straits now.

We can all hope the cease fire results in some deal that benefits the country. Point being, what have we gained? Does the cost/benefit weigh in our favor?
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:28 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:33 pm to
Seizing the uranium was never an objective of his. Nor was regime change. You lied about both.

And your forecast you made earlier today was so far off base as to be frickin comical. I told you it was a retarded take and apparently that made me an unintelligent dick sucker. Well, so far I'm frickin right and you're wrong. So good luck the rest of the way on that one, dickhead
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:43 pm to
You are completely delusional. You cannot admit even the most obvious things. Whether I’m ultimately right or wrong about what happens with Iran is yet to be revealed…2 week ceasefire doesn’t equate to problems solved.

You think we pull our armed forces and personnel back because of a tenuous ceasefire?

Again, what have we accomplished that suggests the benefits outweigh the costs?

You cannot substantiate your position with Trumps on words like I did. I’m trying to give you an easy out.

You are a bitch, and right now, you are my bitch.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173582 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:45 pm to
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Again, what have we accomplished that suggests the benefits outweigh the costs?

These are questions worth considering and ones everyone should be asking.

I'm afraid some people are incapable of even contemplating them
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1980 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:47 pm to
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But the strange reality is that none of you, nor myself, nor anyone else here, knows the situation on that, as of this moment.


If the enriched uranium is gettable. I want us to get it.

If it’s not. I want to know the story (more than you me or anyone here knows it now)

I don’t want it left in their hands.

That doesn’t make it an original objective. Nor does it make this operation a failure if “I” don’t get what I want

But that one of the things I want walking out.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1264 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:48 pm to
Are we really going stat paying a toll for safe passage? did iran basically win? who cares that we killed some 80 year old at deaths door.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10598 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:50 pm to
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Otherwise, what was all this for.


So that the next time we are stupid enough to elect a Democrat it will take them longer to build Iran back up.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73585 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

Are we really going stat paying a toll for safe passage?


No

quote:

did iran basically win?


No

As I spelled out in thread on the actual statement from Iran, all that’s happened is both sides have agreed to to begin negotiations based on the US 15 point proposal and Iran’s 10 point proposal. These points are the Starting point of negotiations, not the end.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:53 pm to
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You are a bitch, and right now, you are my bitch.




I'm sorry you have stupid takes about everything.

You were wrong about blowing the bridges, about a ground war, and about the uranium being an objective.

It's no reason to quadruple down on retarded.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:58 pm to
Once again, you refuse to answer the most basic questions. It’s literally like dealing with a child.

That said, you are attempting to avoid the reality that this was a massive mistake. Your abusive lover Trump has not left you a lot of room for logical arguments.

I’ll quit picking on you, it’s too easy and you don’t have any facts on your side to formulate coherent arguments.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:03 pm to
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you don’t have any facts on your side to formulate coherent arguments




I'm the only one that has presented any facts. You took some comments Trump made about wanting the Uranium and twisted them into a hard military objective that wasn't met because you need a reason to justify your TDS so badly that you'll just make shite up in order to do it.

I on the other hand listed out every stated military objective they laid out. And all of them have been met. I'm sorry you don't like it, but those are the actual facts.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97934 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:05 pm to
You have also been melting down over this
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13426 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:08 pm to
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Ayatollah Khamenei’s son is the new supreme leader of the country.


I didn't realize that; that means the info about them pulling from the 4th string isn't correct, though.
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