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re: Any of you still support Antifa at this point? They're hateful and violent

Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:50 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:50 am to
So do the nazi jobs pay more than the antifa jobs?
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:58 am to
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but I do remember some counter protests to the BLM marches

I dont remember them becoming violent.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:02 am to
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the more each group receives attention, the more each group will grow in support


The more democrat leaders shout racist to their extremist child, the more they feed it... the more they grow.


When are you going to start contacting your leadership to stop it?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:20 am to
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I dont remember them becoming violent.


we are not talking about violent counter protests
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:04 am to
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we are not talking about violent counter protests


I thought we were talking about antifa
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:09 am to
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I thought we were talking about antifa


we had moved pass that and were talking about just the purpose of "counter protesting"
Posted by volod
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:30 am to
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Any of you still support Antifa at this point? They're hateful and violent


Do any of you support the KKK/Neo-Nazis?

I dislike all of the extremist groups.

But there are few questions that I have

1) You hate ANTIFA, but the Neo-Nazis and KKK have been for decades yet NOBODY made a big deal on them.

2) Perhaps this is just anecdote, but I honestly feel that the GOPe is not inherently racist, but they do not mind getting supported from racists. So they will never publicly denounce them.

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Some right-wing people to are seeking radical racism as as response to false narratives of racism from the left.

I will admit that the left has hurt the real meaning of racism by attacking whites over trivial issues. However, the worst way to handle this is to endorse the KKK.

In the end, I think more people in this country lean more liberal than conservative. The older generations are dying out. The one advantage conservatives have is that they are more evenly distributed across the country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:34 am to
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and as of yet, I haven't seen the far left groups hold their own rallies

they have/do. you don't hear about them b/c they're not disrupted by Nazi groups (as of yet)

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when they do, you can bet conservatives groups will counter protest

they've had tons of options and have not

the biggest problem is they simply don't have enough people to pull that off. they can't get 40k sheep b/c they're, well, Nazis

you'd have to pull just about every white supremacist in the US to counter that rally in Boston
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:35 am to
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Speaking louder and in greater numbers isn't "shutting down free speech."

violence, threats of violence, and physical disruption isn't just "speaking louder"

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What's your solution to this "problem."

complete separation of the opposing rallies so they cannot physically interact with each other
Posted by TigerCruise
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:38 am to
I touched on this earlier. KKK/Neo-Nazis don't go out and riot. They're shitheads for sure, but to be honest they're all talk 99% of the time, even at the Charlottesville protest they were armed and didn't inflict casualties outside of the rogue idiot in a car.

Antifa is a violent organization plane and simple. I disagree with the KKK/Neo-Nazi agenda, but in this country everyone has the right to free speech as long as it does not promote violence. You can say you hate Jews and Blacks all you want, that is not against the law.

The issue currently is voicing an opinion of "free speech" is now somehow putting you on the side of the Nazis.

What Nazis say and their right to say it are two completely different subjects that the Left is attempting to mold into one group.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:40 am to
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KKK/Neo-Nazis don't go out and riot. They're shitheads for sure, but to be honest they're all talk 99% of the time, even at the Charlottesville protest they were armed and didn't inflict casualties outside of the rogue idiot in a car.


what about the friday night riots where the Nazis cornered and fought students, not ANTIFA?

Posted by TigerCruise
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:43 am to
I'm not aware of what incident you're referring too, but I love to read.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:46 am to
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I'm not aware of what incident you're referring too,


because this board loves to ignore it

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:50 am to
if my memory serves, the torch-Nazis had the permit/right to be in that area and those "counter protesters" tried to sabotage the march by congregating around teh statue
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:52 am to
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because this board loves to ignore it



so a bunch of students surrounded the statue...and then attacked the KKK guys?

holy shite you're a fricking imbecile.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:53 am to
yes, it was a small group of students

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:54 am to
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so a bunch of students surrounded the statue...and then attacked the KKK guys?

holy shite you're a fricking imbecile


sure...that's what happened
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:57 am to
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violence, threats of violence, and physical disruption isn't just "speaking louder"


40k people didn't show up to assualt 20 protesters.

quote:

complete separation of the opposing rallies so they cannot physically interact with each other


Sounds fun.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:58 am to
a leftist group (likely illegally) obstructing a legal march, leading to a response, isn't an example of Nazis attacking a leftist protest
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:02 pm to


That is some irrational nut jobs. They don't even know what they're angry about. They just want to lash out at anybody, even someone who questions what they believe in... undoubtedly because they don't even know.


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