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re: Any of you still support Antifa at this point? They're hateful and violent
Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:57 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:57 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You guys are really clueless how dangerous radical groups grow and spread aren't you? Try reading a book about the rise of Fascism in Italy, Germany, and Japan(to a lesser extent because their society is REALLY different).
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:58 am to Salmon
well the Boston incident is particularly prone to hyperbole b/c you had 40k people protesting a free speech rally of 20-30 people
it's insane and due to the extremities existing in actual reality, the following discussion will be even more insane b/c of this baseline
it's insane and due to the extremities existing in actual reality, the following discussion will be even more insane b/c of this baseline
Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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well the permit question is not
if you don't secure the proper permits, you do NOT have a right to march
Sure, but salmon already pointed that out for you.
Back to the point at hand. Permits are irrelevant to their intent.
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the "counter protests" in Charlottesville were also marches against free speech
Nah.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:00 am to TigerCruise
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You guys are really clueless how dangerous radical groups grow and spread aren't you? Try reading a book about the rise of Fascism in Italy, Germany, and Japan(to a lesser extent because their society is REALLY different).
Then why are you limiting your criticism?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:01 am to CptBengal
The guy filming had terrible arguments and was clearly there to be a rabble-rouser. He deserves to be roughed up.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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well the Boston incident is particularly prone to hyperbole b/c you had 40k people protesting a free speech rally of 20-30 people
its a reaction based off Charlottesville
question for you
if neither side move to actively silence the other group, but rather peacefully rally as opposition, is that protesting the other group, or offering a counter voice to the other group?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:05 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Then why are you limiting your criticism?
Because the "alt-right" is pretty much the opposite of Fascism and White Surpemacy has been in major decline for 20 years. First things to go in a Fascist society is free speech and the right to own guns.
Which side is representing that? People are irrational and followers by nature. A few hundred Nazi's is nothing new in this country. A growing movement of people with anti-american sentiments is far more dangerous.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:07 am to Salmon
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if neither side move to actively silence the other group, but rather peacefully rally as opposition, is that protesting the other group, or offering a counter voice to the other group?
i have no idea how to label it. i'm using "counter protester" in quotations b/c it's a term others have used
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:08 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nah.
they marched to shut down the free speech of another gorup
so
yeah
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:08 am to Salmon
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if neither side move to actively silence the other group, but rather peacefully rally as opposition, is that protesting the other group, or offering a counter voice to the other group?
People have been counter protesting Nazis for a long time, this is hardly new. The difference now is you have an active group who wishes to group everyone of a specific political viewpoint into that group. This is classic Fascist and Communist tactic used in the 30s, anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is grouped up with the radicals and you are taken care of.
Mob mentality is far more dangerous than a small group of retarded skin heads who have ZERO backing and power in this country.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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they marched to shut down the free speech of another gorup
They marched because they were told rock in a specific shape was racist and people that support that are racist.
So.
Nah.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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they marched to shut down the free speech of another gorup
they marched to oppose the views of another group
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:12 am to TigerCruise
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The difference now is you have an active group who wishes to group everyone of a specific political viewpoint into that group
Both sides are doing this.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:13 am to TigerCruise
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Because the "alt-right" is pretty much the opposite of Fascism and White Surpemacy has been in major decline for 20 years.
Which side is representing that? People are irrational and followers by nature. A few hundred Nazi's is nothing new in this country. A growing movement of people with anti-american sentiments is far more dangerous.
Again, you're limiting your criticism. Why does one "side" require an active membership in one very specific organization, while the other is limited to someone that supports a broad range of ideas.
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First things to go in a Fascist society is free speech and the right to own guns.
It's a good thing that both are stronger than ever in this country.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:13 am to TigerCruise
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People are irrational and followers by nature. A few hundred Nazi's is nothing new in this country. A growing movement of people with anti-american sentiments is far more dangerous.
if you can't see how all of your posts mirror the arguments from the other side, I don't know what to tell you
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:14 am to Salmon
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they marched to oppose the views of another group
their argument literally is that they have to shut them down so it's not normalized. the point is to shut down the speech
you can go listen to them talk about this, or those in the media defending the auth-left groups. this is their argument
that's why they flipped out when Trump condemned the extremists on both sides. if people start to accept that (and they should b/c it's reality), then they lose the moral high ground and lose this argument. then the "counter protesters" just look like the thugs they actually are
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:16 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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They marched because they were told rock in a specific shape was racist and people that support that are racist.
So.
Nah.
the goal was to shut down the speech of the group (and it worked). how is acting in a way to shut down the speech of another group NOT marching to shut down the speech of another group?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:16 am to Salmon
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they marched to oppose the views of another group
Who has a problem with this?
It's the fact they're beating and harrassing people who aren't even involved with White Supremacy that is the issue. Clashing with Police? This has every historical markings of a Fascist movement on the rise.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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their argument literally is that they have to shut them down so it's not normalized. the point is to shut down the speech
I believe this to be a minority opinion held by the most vocal
most counter protests do not end in violence
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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the goal was to shut down the speech of the group (and it worked). how is acting in a way to shut down the speech of another group NOT marching to shut down the speech of another group?
Their goal was to counter protest an opposing viewpoint.
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