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re: Any chance Floyd died from fentanyl overdose?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:18 am to Jinglebob
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:18 am to Jinglebob
There was likely many factors involved; however, a police officer with his hands in his pocket (singling no threat) with his knee on the neck of a guy who was cuffed for almost 9 minutes, almost 3 minutes after he apparently passed out.
While it may not end up being murder, that officer (just based on what little we have) should be going to jail for a while.
While it may not end up being murder, that officer (just based on what little we have) should be going to jail for a while.
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:20 am to Tiguar
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Not only that but he said “I can’t breathe”.
Talking requires moving air across the wind pipe....otherwise known as breathing
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:20 am to Strannix
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bullshite, you could snort a bump and be dead in a minute, again you claim to be a physician
What he said is consistent with what I've been told by someone I know is a physician.
Maybe, it's you...
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:22 am to Bulldogblitz
Has nothing to do with that statement on the impossibility of a fentanyl overdose.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:29 am to Jorts R Us
Fentanyl nasal tmax can be reached in five minutes, it's called science I think that trumps your anecdotal story, SAD
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:36 am to Strannix
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Fentanyl nasal tmax can be reached in five minutes, it's called science I think that trumps your anecdotal story, SAD
It is called science and multiple people with years of training far beyond what you and I can claim are telling you, you're reaching here. SAD
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:41 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Not in 9 mins, sans a major change in bloodstream concentrations during that timeframe.
"Dangerously slowed or stopped breathing."
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:46 am to Strannix
quote:Correct. In fact, it does hit in approximately that timeframe. Almost as quickly as IV. So with that observation, did george take a lethal level snort in target waiting in line to buy his cigarettes.
Fentanyl nasal tmax can be reached in five minutes
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:48 am to Tiguar
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Again, people overdosing on opiates don’t “know” they can’t breathe
Not really a good defense. People will just come back with something about all career criminals have a “go to” excuse they should be let go.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:50 am to NC_Tigah
The fentanyl question will play in court, as well as the protocol on the knee/upper back subduction method for MPD.
Any suggestion that those shouldn't be considered are just using emotion over reason.
Unless we are going to just start assuming motive and intent based on race of the victim in all cases.
It's obvious the man was killed. The question is why. I'm not sure there are enough reasonable/rational people left to provide an unbiased jury.
Any suggestion that those shouldn't be considered are just using emotion over reason.
Unless we are going to just start assuming motive and intent based on race of the victim in all cases.
It's obvious the man was killed. The question is why. I'm not sure there are enough reasonable/rational people left to provide an unbiased jury.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:52 am to NC_Tigah
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Correct. In fact, it does hit in approximately that timeframe. Almost as quickly as IV. So with that observation, did george take a lethal level snort in target waiting in line to buy his cigarettes.
Most likely not, I would like to see the amount of methamphetamine in his system as well. The combination of the two could cause some serious heart issues.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:53 am to AUauditor
And there has still been no investigative reporting on the very odd fact that Floyd and Chauvin were both bouncers in the same club for a year - up until 5 or 6 months ago.
I worked as a bouncer for several years. No way in hell a bouncer doesn't know every other bouncer in the club who has regular weekly shifts. Absolutely impossible. Particularly when one is the outside off-duty cop. He's eyeballing every dude that gets bounced - and wants the story on him.
I worked as a bouncer for several years. No way in hell a bouncer doesn't know every other bouncer in the club who has regular weekly shifts. Absolutely impossible. Particularly when one is the outside off-duty cop. He's eyeballing every dude that gets bounced - and wants the story on him.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:24 am to Jinglebob
Nope. He died of covid-19 aggravated by strangulation.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:42 am to Jinglebob
A lot of people aren't mentioning he did 5 years for a crime that carries a max 99 years in Texas. If it was that racist wouldn't he have received a longer sentence instead of the absolute minimum?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:43 am to Jinglebob
No, stupid. Overdoses don’t just happen hours after you ingest a drug
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 7:44 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:48 am to Jinglebob
If the truth mattered , then yes. It doesn’t. The narrative has been set. One autopsy said cause of death was heart attack. Another was quickly performed to give the correct cause asphyxiation. There, fixed it.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:48 am to Bunkie7672
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, stupid. Overdoses don’t just happen hours after you ingest a drug
there's a difference between an OD and heart attack induced by multiple powerful drugs, meth and fentanyl and the altercatiin
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:59 am to Jinglebob
Too much causes paralysis of muscles that arr used for breathing, so that's absolutely a possibility.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:15 am to Strannix
quote:Absolutely!
bullshite, you could snort a bump and be dead in a minute
The problem is we have visual accounts of Floyd for his last 15 minutes. The problem you have is the timeframe in which an IV (or IV equivalent) dose would hit to the extent it caused a change of response from ambulation to LOC/Death. It would not take >15mins! Let's repeat that. In the case of IV dosing, the time to max effect would NEVER take >15mins! EVER!
So unless GF took a hit DURING THE ARREST, Fentanyl was not the cause of death.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:21 am to Hoops
Yeah, there’s gonna be a real rash of criminals shooting up fentanyl and killing themselves while they mutter “I can’t breathe” just to stick it to the white man
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