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re: Antifa Strikesback: Jason Kessler press conference goes sideways

Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:55 pm to
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This is what you call a lynch mob.

After reading the twitter posts on the last link, is there any doubt the anti klan/nazi people spew more hatred than the people they hate?
Their free speech is everybit as deplorable as the deplorablefree speech the wish to silence.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:56 pm to
If birth rates in Western Europe don't lie, then why shouldn't the 2.11 rate in KSA, 2.08 in Turkey, and 1.68 rate in Iran be an issue? It's highly like that the MENA region deals with its own demographic crisis in the next two decades.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:58 pm to
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The Nazis had a right to be there, ANTIFA did not.
Wrong.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Do you have to feel a demographic decline for it to occur?

What a nonsensical statement. . .
Well how do I accept a reality, when the only presentation of it is a bunch of whiners or losers insisting in its existence?

So the implication is that my own subjective belief is nonsensical, but the subjective belief I am refuting is nonsensical?

Yes, we make up a smaller share of the population. If that is the basis, and our success is dependent not on merit, but on just being larger, then whining about decline sounds more like the victim-complex.

In other words, maybe you're right. We got a bunch of weak, whiners who are basically resorting to the SJWer mentality. That could be a sign of a decline, or a sign that we were weaker than ever thought.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Your feelings don't change the plain reality .
Neither do yours. Now if you want to provide some reality, other than population level statistics, and the resulting fallacious reasoning of the interpretation, then fine.

But your victim complex sounds exactly like the victim complex of the people you're criticizing.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
I respect your opinion, crazy4lsu. You generally don't seem to speak without being informed, so I sincerely hope you are right.

The numbers I've seen, and the behavior we have witnessed from non-whites towards whites, don't give me reason to be optimistic about a future in which the Western world is no longer majority European-descended people.
It seems like our future includes ethnic strife at a level that will make us yearn for the good old days when the news could make a huge deal out of one loser Nazi plowing his car into a group of Commie protestors.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:09 pm to
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The numbers I've seen, and the behavior we have witnessed from non-whites towards whites, don't give me reason to be optimistic about a future in which the Western world is no longer majority European-descended people.



Europe survived all sorts of crazy stuff, and has done a fairly good job integrating people who want to be integrated. Europe isn't as good as America at integration, though, so their progress doesn't look like progress to us. It should be on all of us to retreat from identity politics, because that is a race to the bottom, for everyone regardless of race. The quicker we realize what an anchor identity politics is the better off we will be.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:18 pm to
You are not only wrong you're not even in the same solar system as right.

The Right Wing groups had both a permit and a court order. ANTIFA had nothing. NO RIGHT to attack a legal demonstration and no way you can justify it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:27 pm to
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You are not only wrong you're not even in the same solar system as right.

The Right Wing groups had both a permit and a court order. ANTIFA had nothing. NO RIGHT to attack a legal demonstration and no way you can justify it
Well the lady who died, was from there, and apparently NC_Tigah has worked with her in a professional capacity, and had good things to say. So I doubt she was a member of ANTIFA.

So did she, as a local citizen, have less of a right to be standing up for what she believes on from some guy living in Ohio, because some groups he supported, which he may or may not have been a member of, and their views, had a permit?
Posted by WYTiger222
Member since Jul 2017
74 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:27 pm to
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The nazi's


The left Nazis or the right Nazis?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125408 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:28 pm to
Keep doubling down on stupid....
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:29 pm to
In a nutshell, no. She was participating in an illegal assembly.

A shame what happened to her, but if she isn't there she's alive right now. That's undeniable.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:31 pm to
The group she was with was hardly peaceful if you watch that video. Several of them had clubs and attacked the car. This was no concerned citizens march.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125408 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:33 pm to
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The group she was with was hardly peaceful if you watch that video. Several of them had clubs and attacked the car. This was no concerned citizens march.


stop spreading fake news

No one even tried to go after the car until it drove down the street going about 30 and hitting people.

Stop defending this shite bag who killed someone
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:33 pm to
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In a nutshell, no. She was participating in an illegal assembly.
So if BLM came in your local town and marched inyour streets, but obtained a permit, and you marched against their hateful views, you would have been illegally assembling, even though you were doing this not as a member of a group, but as a private local citizen?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:34 pm to
If the law says we have to have a permit, yes, I would be breaking the law.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:35 pm to
I never said when they went after the car but the facts are they did go after it and they had weapons. This was no peaceful gathering.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125408 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:36 pm to
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I never said when they went after the car but the facts are they did go after it and they had weapons. This was no peaceful gathering.



That group wasn't going after anyone

But yes other left idiots had been getting in scuffles with right idiots.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:38 pm to
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If the law says we have to have a permit, yes, I would be breaking the law.
So does the law specify a permit for each citizen, or an organized assembly of a group? Because by your standard, people could be breaking the law for even the most mundane situations, every single day.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:39 pm to
They struck the car with clubs after the deed was done, tell the truth.
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