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re: Another kid died in custody of border patrol

Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:01 pm to
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And you totally skipped over the charities listed
Because they totally skipped over the kid in question here.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:01 pm to
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As the government also compensates facilities for "self-pay" indigent care, taxpayers almost assuredly foot a portion of the bill.


If they can not get financial assistance from a charity, when it comes to saving a kids life I don't care if my tax dollars are used.
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:03 pm to
I wasn't just referring to the kid in question with this one. Just the fact those charities exist.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:05 pm to
Casualties are expected and sometimes useful in the cause of Revolution and Subversion of an enemy political entity - the Republic of the United States of America under POTUS Trump.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:23 pm to
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And you totally skipped over the charities listed, went yo Medicaid and think you made a point.


What I said is this:

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Name it. Name the charity that paid for it and routinely pays for illegal alien healthcare when they travel to the US and absolves the US govt the responsibility to cover.


Therefore you have not answered the question. Your list of charities is non-sequitur. It was skipped because you didn’t answer the question. Why did you not? There isn’t an answer. Well a popular answer at least.

You listed Medicaid as a “charity”. It is not. It is meant for Americans. It is funded by taxpayers. And if you will review the other posts... it is to the tune of 17 billion dollars plus per year. Again.. enough to fund the entire United States Treasury Department and EPA for one year.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:29 pm to
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Therefore you have not answered the question. Your list of charities is non-sequitur. It was skipped because you didn’t answer the question. Why did you not? There isn’t an answer. Well a popular answer at least. 



Total nonsense and complete BS.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:30 pm to
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FWIW, though as you've said, you don't give a shite.


Are you crying? Because the tears in your eyes must have not been able to see my post. Which was:

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No one gives a shite what it cost you. That’s on you.


I said I didn’t give a shite what it costs you. It is on YOU.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:31 pm to
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Total nonsense and complete BS.



Well.... the question still remains. Go for it. Name it.

Can’t? Your list is indeed Non-Sequitur.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:34 pm to
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TigerMyth36


Bless your heart
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74159 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:48 pm to
Link to improper medical treatment?

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:49 pm to
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Link to improper medical treatment?


The kid was in custody for a week before becoming ill and dying, do you assume he received the best possible care while in jail?

Because, boy do you have some (more) things to learn about the real world if so...
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74159 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:53 pm to
Considering the first story completely blew up and the girl’s father even said he was happy with the treatment she received, i approach these stories with skepticism
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Considering the first story completely blew up and the girl’s father even said he was happy with the treatment she received, i approach these stories with skepticism


Skepticism is good.

Not recognizing that the circumstances are different is bad.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44232 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:03 pm to
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No, I never said or implied the docs let the child die or hated the child. I never said anything close to that. 


I believe you posted this...

I blame the doctors. That's 2 kids dead in U.S. custody.  

Deflect? Hardly. Just pointing out these immigrants are passively and outright hated.
 
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44232 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:05 pm to
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The hospital put me in contact with a charity that helps people cover their medical bills. I qualified for their help and that charity paid a touch over $47,000 for the surgery and related costs.


Just out of curiousity...do you donate annually to the charity (read...NOT a government agency supported by taxes)?
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:08 pm to
Liberals caring about kids
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44232 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:19 pm to
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The kid was in custody for a week before becoming ill and dying, do you assume he received the best possible care while in jail? 


I don't assume anything at all actually. You seem to assume quite a bit though. In short, is it documented at what point that the illness became symptomatic? I think that it is tragic that the child died, but I don't believe their death should be used for political purposes. One moron is even implying that the medical staff was negligent due to repressed hatred and bias (crazy right?). For the record, I want border security, but I also get people trying to bail from issues abroad. America is a cash cow. Handled properly, the economic cash cow can supply our people for many lifetimes. Butchering the cash cow and devouring it to temporarily solve a problem works only in the short term. I have a long term view. Secure the border, and then attempt to assist those in need. Just my .02.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:09 am to
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do you assume he received the best possible care while in jail?
Holy smokes. You are truly a moron.

Posts like yours coming from others are at least attributable to lack of medical exposure. You have no such excuse. Just pathetic.

But to answer your inane question, whatever care he received "while in jail" was light years ahead of what he'd have received in his home country.

And then there is that damn US "legal consent" thing....
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The father of the Guatemalan child who died Christmas Eve denied further medical treatment from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents after the child vomited following an initial examination from doctors, a spokesman from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said on a call to reporters Wednesday. Government officials provided further details, including the startling disclosure of the father’s behavior, regarding the timeline of the child’s deteriorating condition. According to officials, the 8-year-old boy, Felipe Gomez Alonzo, was given multiple medical examinations by doctors before being released with prescription medications.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:59 am to
The Left get a hard-on every time something tragic like this happens, just like school shootings.

The Left want you to think it saddens them, but Sociopaths lack true emotion and almost to a man/woman/it, the Left are Sociopaths.

To them, some kid from an inferior race dying at the hand of evil ole Publicans' is only helpful to their cause.

Make no mistake, deep down inside this makes them warm and fuzzy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:40 am to
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But to answer your inane question, whatever care he received "while in jail" was light years ahead of what he'd have received in his home country.



And light years behind what he could have received at a normal hospital in our country.
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