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re: Another kid died in custody of border patrol
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:04 am to Ted2010
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:04 am to Ted2010
quote:
I also seem to recall another mass immigration to this country and, ideed, children were drug thousands of miles to get here. Children died then too. But, no vitriol is hurled the parents, way.
Was somebody trying to blame border patrol back then?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:07 am to Ted2010
quote:No Einstein. Sorry.
The child was obviously sick to the point of death.
Were the child ""obviously sick to the point of death"", he'd not have been treated and released.
Obviously.
Regardless, you had no clue as to in whose custody or how the child died.
Obviously.
Nor do you have the medical understanding to make assumptions about level of care provided.
Obviously.
Instead, you popped off in ignorance, and critiqued others for not debating you.
When faced with the fact that kids die of infections in the best of care, as did this child, you instead deflected that "their deaths were not sneared at and the parents damned." Even assuming your deflection correct, WTF does it have to do with the moronic OP or your ignorant support of it?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:09 am to Ted2010
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. The child was obviously sick to the point of death. That child should have been in the ICU with every effort to save the kid's life
And just a quick little question... who would have paid for it?
And back to your point.... why are you blaming the border patrol instead of the doctors?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:10 am to Ted2010
quote:Look if someone makes the ludicrous, ignorant statements that have been posted by you and the OP in this thread, calling them ludicrous and ignorant is not an insult. It is simple fact.
There goes the insults again.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:11 am to Ted2010
This is a whole new level of melt
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:12 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Look if someone makes the ludicrous, ignorant statements that have been posted by you and the OP in this thread, calling them ludicrous and ignorant is not an insult. It is simple fact.
No, it's that you have nothing to offer.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:12 am to td01241
Melt? How? Or is that just a cliche?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:19 am to NC_Tigah
The child was obviously treated and released when the child was obviously sick to the point of death. Nothing in your insults changes that.
The child was obviously in U.S. custody. Not once have I blamed ICE. I blame the doctors. That's 2 kids dead in U.S. custody.
Deflect? Hardly. Just pointing out these immigrants are passively and outright hated. You brought up kids who dies in Jersey. That was a red herring and an apples to oranges comparison any way.
The child was obviously in U.S. custody. Not once have I blamed ICE. I blame the doctors. That's 2 kids dead in U.S. custody.
Deflect? Hardly. Just pointing out these immigrants are passively and outright hated. You brought up kids who dies in Jersey. That was a red herring and an apples to oranges comparison any way.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:23 am to Ted2010
quote:Fellow, IDK if you are following this thread, but your assertions here just got eviscerated.
No, it's that you have nothing to offer.
Let's review:
You appear to have known absolutely nothing about the nature of the child's unfortunate death.
You appear to have known absolutely nothing about its circumstances.
You appear to know nothing about statistical lethality of infection extended across a pediatric population.
You really appear to know nothing whatsoever about this discussion.
Yet you are willing to jump to quite cruel and nonfact-based conclusions regarding Americans who tried to save this child's life. Then you have the unmitigated gall to tell others "No, it's that you have nothing to offer."
Really?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:23 am to CleverUserName
quote:
And just a quick little question... who would have paid for it?
And back to your point.... why are you blaming the border patrol instead of the doctors?
I do believe there are charities set up to help patients in need with medical bills.
I didnt blame the border agents. I never said the agents let the kids die. Look up at a reply I made to another poster here. I did blame the doctors.
I'm about to be on the road with my kids to visit more family. I'll revisit this thread later on today when I can. I hope y'alls Christmas was good. Be blessed.
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 7:30 am
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:26 am to Ted2010
quote:
And the parents? Leftists that encourage and partially fund these caravans that made the child sick to begin with??
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:26 am to Ted2010
quote:Describe those obvious symptoms for us, would you? Please do take your time.
the child was obviously sick to the point of death.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:31 am to CleverUserName
quote:Completely irrelevant. The care is administered first. This kid had no way to pay for anything. Doesn't matter. Care was administered for free, as it always is in this country under such circumstances. In this case, that includes both the ER and intensive care the child received. All of which is light years ahead of what would have been available for him south-of-the-border.
... who would have paid for it?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:36 am to trinidadtiger
quote:
Another kid died in custody of border patrol
Very sad, but what was his/her medical history?
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 7:36 am
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:46 am to Ted2010
quote:
I do believe there are charities set up to help patients in need with medical bills.
Like who? What charity is going to pay a 50,000 to 100,000 dollar intensive care unit stay for her? The so called “charities” spent their money getting them to the border. After they get their photo op and camera shots to try to hurt republicans... they are gone. Adios if you will.
You know who would have paid for it.
Now how long, would you as a taxpayer, would have to pay the kind of taxes it would take to cover this expense? Of someone who never should have traveled here knowing the border was not wide open? Now what else could it have been better spent on?
Now what you want is thousands more of the same, on top of all that is here, to spend this taxpayer money on.
The crap you have been fed of a net gain from illegal immigration is BS. Just admit it.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:53 am to Ted2010
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immigrants
These aren’t immigrants. They are Illegal Immigrants. Huge difference between the two.
Was President Obama wrong when he said for parents to not bring their children to the border?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:57 am to Ted2010
quote:
I blame the doctors. That's 2 kids dead in U.S. custody.
Deflect? Hardly. Just pointing out these immigrants are passively and outright hated.
So basically you are implying that the doctors PURPOSELY and INTENTIONALLY allowed the child to die because you assume that they hated the child. Can you take a step back and even remotely see how warped that viewpoint actually is?
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:58 am to NC_Tigah
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Completely irrelevant. The care is administered first. This kid had no way to pay for anything. Doesn't matter. Care was administered for free, as it always is in this country under such circumstances
No it wasn’t. It was not administered “free”. In no way was it “free”. Did the hospital donate the supplies? Doctors donate time? Nurses donate time?
See there is the “free” fantasy you libs have. It is not “free”. Someone pays for it. You think this system you just touted got where it is on voluntarily?
And exactly. The kid had no way to pay. Same as US kids. But their parents didn’t either... which is the problem. And you know who is looking for more “free”? Thousands more. Hell ..millions if you believe the reports out of Central America and Mexico.
Again.. the child wouldn’t have died if the people stayed wherever they are from and respected US law.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 8:10 am to CleverUserName
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No it wasn’t. It was not administered “free”. In no way was it “free”. Did the hospital donate the supplies? Doctors donate time? Nurses donate time?
The point is, the rabbithole you were descending into had nothing whatsoever to do with this kid's care. Nothing. Regardless of origin or ability to pay, he got the same care any child would have. You were engaging with a dumbass who seemed to suppose differently.
Trust me though, I am keenly aware Doctors donate time. I am keenly aware of the financial details involved.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 8:26 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Trust me though, I am keenly aware Doctors donate time.
Yet you blame them for intentionally killing the child by suggesting that the medical staff's buried hatred overcame their Hippocratic oath. I must say, you have an interesting take on this tragedy.
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