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re: Another former J6'er dead

Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:56 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:56 am to
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She pointed it at the men.


According to who? Did they investigate beyond just taking their word for it?

Does she have a right to point a gun at people on her private property and tell them to leave? Are you capable of distinguishing between her private property and the public streets where the Rittenhouse thing went down?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:00 am to
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Does she have a right to point a gun at people on her private property and tell them to leave?

You better be able to articulate reasonable and sincere feelings of threats if you're going to do this.

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Did they investigate beyond just taking their word for it?

The lady was clearly in the process of a breakdown and her life was spiraling. If the 2 men had a legitimate reason for being there, what other reasonable explanation is there?

It's not like a shooting-homicide isn't going to be investigated thoroughly.

This lady wasn't some important person to execute. That makes no sense.

If she was executed by professionals, why would they do it in such a public fashion that would lead to the most intense of investigations?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34207 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:17 am to
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I mean even the X post/tweet in OP has a video of the lady saying they had to break windows to get into the capitol, and how they were teargassed. Consider those comments in light of all the violence against LEO in the riot outside of the capitol just prior to that, and you get a better picture of what he's talking about.


Sure there was some violence. I said in my original post that it could be considered a riot. But calling it an "attack" brings about a completely different concept with a different end-goal. That is disingenuous language.

Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:55 am to
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Almost none of that is accurate. You don’t need a stand your ground law in almost any state (perhaps with the exception of Minnesota) to defend yourself against someone brandishing a weapon.


This we will disagree on. As far as how accurate this is. But it's going to come largely from perspective. Mine is coming from the view of keeping ourselves out of jail or prison, when prosecutors come after us for exercising our rights.

It's 100% accurate that every state has its own definition of castle doctrine, and the states that have stand your ground, can vary on those laws from state to state.
It's also 100% accurate that there are states that do not have stand your ground laws.
it's also accurate that there are states who have twisted it, in regards to when you can defend yourself.
I'll refer back to NJ me. I lived there so it's familiar to me. Again, they are a duty to retreat state.
Say that I get into an argument with someone, and they end up punching me in the face. I then take them down. If cops get involved one or both of us could get arrested, in NJ.
Person who punched me in the face is most likely going to spend a couple hours in jail. Now, did I throw him to the ground and then remove myself to a safe distance? If so, I'm most likely ok.
Did I take him down, and then take further measures against him? I'm most likely going to jail too. Because I did not retreat.

You and I live in an amazing state, that gives us so much freedom to protect ourselves. States like New Jersey, and NY will find whatever measures they can think up, to punish those that do so.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4560 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:33 am to
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Uh, why not?


Seattle, Washington
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10048 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Is it typical that doctors will lose their medical licenses over unrelated (to their practice) misdemeanor convictions?


If they are Trump supporters? Yes. Just like they have done with attorneys who have represented and/or publicly supported Trump. Stripped them of their law licenses.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Uh, why not?


Read below the video. She was being served papers for foreclosure on her house, she pulled out a shotgun on the servers and one of them shot and killed her.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38944 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:29 pm to
I'm all for the 1/6 pardons but it seems like some of these 1/6 folks aren't the best and brightest among us
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm guessing it was ruled self defense


Yeah, ok. We'll just ignore all the other "self defense" cases where the shooter was not allowed to walk as if nothing happened.

I'm guessing the cops are not investigating further due to who was killed and this occurring in Seattle.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2605 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:36 pm to
Over half of them had prior convictions
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125759 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:06 pm to
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Over half of them had prior convictions


Half of who?
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