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re: Annual inflation reading coming in at 6.5%...Not good

Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:16 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
59722 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:16 am to
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So it is not as high as it was 4 years ago. The auto pen set inflation records, did it not?


You fricking idiot. Do you realize this crap compounds?
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4744 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:24 am to
The nation is full of economically illiterate voters and politicians. They genuinely believe inflation will magically end without tariffs and Iran which will free them to implement increased spending. What they fail to understand is tariffs are paid by other nations which doesn’t add more US dollars to the supply of money. It is paid through existing dollars already in the World economy. The reason inflation spiked during Covid is because that money didn’t exist and was printed adding an additional 1.5 trillion dollars to a money supply that is approaching 23 trillion physical dollars thereby devaluing it. We are still dealing with that sustained inflation from 6 years ago. Hypothetically, if Democrats pass Medicare for all the projected cost per year 3-4 trillion dollars and let’s assume half of it is paid for, which is a big if, then the other 1.5-2 trillion dollars will have to be printed annually. It would cause Covid era inflation annually. Unfortunately, inflation compounds so a decade from now prices will have theoretically doubled. Tariffs and temporary fuel spikes aren’t inflating the money supply, they are temporary spikes not longterm inflation
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:25 am to
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Is this sarcasm?


Clearly not quote:The October 2026 Producer Price Index (PPI) confirmed that monthly wholesale inflation cooled significantly to 0.3% (down from a revised 1.4% surge in September)




Uh, the core inflation is what the Fed goes by, so while monthly may ease, it’s not what they look at… so watch the market today to get your answer on whether this report was good and everything is trending better…
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102370 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:33 am to
No one said the report was good

If it was bad like the headline of this thread claims the bond market would be on fire

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
18342 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:34 am to
I honestly don’t know how we fix these issues with our country. We’ve really put ourselves into a bind as a country. All the kicking the cans down the road have lead to this. Printing money, borrowing money, owing money, too much incompetence when it came to money. At some point everything was going to come crashing down and that point is now. Look at every empire that’s collapsed, and these money issues we’re facing today, are the same issues that broke the camels back, in all of those empires. Unfortunately, this means large scale war is next on the list…
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:37 am to
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Don't worry, the Dems will make everything cheap again.



They'll call for printing more money and call super inflation a bargain.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:39 am to
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If it was bad like the headline of this thread claims the bond market would be on fire


This was a bad report, highest PPI in 4 years, which is a leading indicator of CPI. The 10 year is back over 5.1, and the only reason it isn’t over 6, is that people are derisking to bonds and buying them, which drives yields down, or they would be imploding…
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
34979 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:39 am to
just need to war iran harder
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17697 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:42 am to
Trump gonna lower it day one

And end the russia Ukraine war

And stop wars in the Middle East

And drain the swamp

And cut government spending


Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:52 am to
Trump doesn’t control spending, and Biden had everything propped up with 2 trillion dollar deficits. He had a choice, a recession, or find a way to keep spending. Biden did it with immigration, and paying more people to come here, and was giving them money to come in all sorts of ways; Trump did it with war. When the spending stops, it gets ugly. They have all kicked the can, so don’t expect any difference, as we pick up speed to the cliff…
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17697 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:55 am to
Every president gets tagged for the amount of spending on their watch whether or not they “control” spending

Trump, as we all know, controls all aspects of his presidency

Biden was not even a functioning human
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
39075 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:56 am to
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Don't worry, the Dems will make everything cheap again.

They ran on inflation, affordability, foreign interventionism and the Epstein files.

Come January, they're totally going to turn the economy around, end foreign funding, stop the flow of money to the Iran effort and release the full unredacted Epstein stuff. They're absolutely not merely going to spend 24 months racking up more debt and impeaching 400 people.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:58 am to
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Every president gets tagged for the amount of spending on their watch whether or not they “control” spending Trump, as we all know, controls all aspects of his presidency Biden was not even a functioning human


All true, and while they don’t control spending , they set the agenda that Congress follows, which does make him responsible, even if he really doesn’t control the purse strings. He didn’t have to go to war, as an example
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17697 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 10:00 am to
Gotta be sarcasm

Look at the 10 year
Highest yield in 20 years!

The market is telling us that inflation is here for a while

But tarriffs don’t raise prices…. (More sarcasm)
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7573 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 10:00 am to
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Trump doesn’t control spending, and Biden had everything propped up with 2 trillion dollar deficits. He had a choice, a recession, or find a way to keep spending. Biden did it with immigration, and paying more people to come here, and was giving them money to come in all sorts of ways; Trump did it with war. When the spending stops, it gets ugly. They have all kicked the can, so don’t expect any difference, as we pick up speed to the cliff…

Everything pales in comparison to Covid stimulus.

That's why we're in this position and in the position where fuel price increases from the Iran war have been so painful, because they piled on the cumulative inflation that's happened since Covid hit.

Congress, Biden and Trump were all responsible for flooding the money supply during Covid, and flooding the money supply after a decade of money printing post-GFC made it worse.

Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66220 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 10:07 am to
True, they’ve used War, Tarriffs, Immigration, Pandemics, think AI hacking the banking system and online banking may be next, they always find a reason to kick the can
This post was edited on 11/13/26 at 10:08 am
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
8017 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 10:14 am to
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cut enough spending


Are you serious? We will never have a cut in spending. Never. Well not until the system totally collapsed.

The biggest reason is voters will NEVER stand for it in spite of what we read on message boards.

It's never going to happen.

Everyone is for cutting spending. Cut Cut Cut. Yes Yes Yes.

There are only 3 meaningful places you can cut:
Defense, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid.

You can win votes on "cutting spending". You cannot win votes proposing cuts or meaningful changes to those 3. People will not stand for it.

People want more of those not less. More benefits,.new programs.

Total and complete collapse with massive civil unrest is a lot closer to us than "cuts".

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