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Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:08 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:08 am to
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I think you are OK with alot of the liberal stuff going on in the Church (and im not a traditionalist)


I admittedly don't follow controversies in other parishes across the country closely (or really at all).

I just try to focus on being the best person I can be and serving my community. I want to set a good example for my husband and kids and the kids in my catechism class. That's my focus.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15295 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:22 am to
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just try to focus on being the best person I can be and serving my community. I want to set a good example for my husband and kids and the kids in my catechism class. That's my focus.


That's fine and admirable, but is it better to just ignore the disease thats actively inflicting our Church or actively try to fight it?

Sure you have your own battles in your diocese, but to not pay attention to the State of the Absolute church is negligence...particularly if you are teaching catechism. These kids need to know what kind of battles are being fought.

TLM, gay marriage, weird pro-choice fringes, etc




Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110954 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:36 am to
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Vincentians are famously down-to-earth. Maybe you aren’t familiar with the order?


Yes, I'm well familiar with both them and the Jesuits. The intellectual rigor required to become a Vincentian is about half of that required to become a Jesuit. It wasn't really a value-based point, just factual. As was the social justice one. The Vincentians indeed have a few higher-ed institutions, while the Jesuits arguably created what we know as modern higher education. Both have arguably allowed their social justice impulses to impede on their current-day advances in that area.

I used to occasionally attend Father Tom's masses as St. Joseph's. He was a good soul, but went a bit off the deepend during covid, which I understand was likely as much due to his own health issues as anything. I sadly think he's no longer with us.

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15295 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Both have arguably allowed their social justice impulses to impede on their current-day advances in that area.



That's a good place to leave it.

I appreciate St Vincent de Paul charities, we donate to the food bank when we can. As well as the pharmaceutical stuffs they do as well out here.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:22 pm to
You have to acknowledge that social justice is a big part of Christianity and Catholicism. Jesus is the OG SJW.

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I used to occasionally attend Father Tom's masses as St. Joseph's. He was a good soul, but went a bit off the deepend during covid, which I understand was likely as much due to his own health issues as anything. I sadly think he's no longer with us.



He's still around! He said mass in January and played his accordion after his homily. He looks great. The same as always.

We didn't become parishioners at St. Joseph until after COVID, but Fr. Tom was still the pastor when we joined. Have you been to any of Fr. Ed's masses? I really like him.

My youngest was baptized at the 10 am mass there last Easter because Fr. Ed said he always wanted to baptize a baby on Easter.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Sure you have your own battles in your diocese, but to not pay attention to the State of the Absolute church is negligence...particularly if you are teaching catechism. These kids need to know what kind of battles are being fought.



We have been doing a deep dive into the Gospel of Mark.

What's wrong with TLM?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110954 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:47 pm to
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He's still around! He said mass in January and played his accordion after his homily. He looks great. The same as always.


Someone told me they thought he had passed. That is good to hear. He played the accordion once when I was there. I haven’t been there since the new pastor came onboard.

I didn’t express any particular personal views of “social justice” generally, but I see it as a relatively new concept that can often get in the way of personal growth and development, which I see more of His teachings as seeking to advance. I don’t know that I wish to share more, but I also don’t doubt most seeking to advance it come from a good place. I can’t say I’m not suspicious about some, though.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15295 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:49 pm to
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What's wrong with TLM?


Nothing is wrong with TLM, but the folks who attend TLMs are having issues with being able to attend TLM moving forward since former Pope Francis wrote Traditionis Custodes which drastically limited the celebration of it.

I attend Nouvus Ordo mass (TLM isnt my cup of tea) but lots of those traditional Catholics were not and still are not happy about how he left the State of the Church.

You aware of the crisis within the Church regarding SSPX?
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13466 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:28 pm to
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If you want to reform the prison system from recidivism, you have to make it a place that criminals actually have fear and respect for.


There might be no concept that has been proven as false as this one that people still believe.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31095 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:37 pm to
No workie..no eatie!......ain't no SNAP in tha joint!

Besides, many of them like to get outside and socialize a little. There are NO whips and they're given regular breaks. What the hell do they want?...a swimming pool and a cabana?


....

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:42 pm to
Another note about Vincentians and maybe why I identify with that order so much. When I first moved back to the NOLA area from BR, I lived in Metairie and went to St. Clement of Rome, which is in a wealthy zip code and has well-attended masses. I organized a service project there once to make bag lunches for the folks at the Ozanam Inn (when it was on Camp) and like 4 people came. My husband did RCIA (or whatever its called now) there when he converted and we knew the other people in his classes but other than them, I found the parishioners there to be very cold. They seemed be going through the motions and not actually living the faith.

St. Joseph's has the Rebuild Center, which does amazing work. I run a program that prepares people with felony convictions who are on probation and parole to get their GEDs. Many people exiting prison and jail are homeless when they get out. Yesterday I chatted with a new student who mentioned she had an appointment to get her ID at Rebuild. She raved about it and how grateful she is for it. Se said "there are actual homeless people that go there and the people who work there treat them like they are real people. They will talk to them and touch them and everything." I appreciate that the Church really lives the faith and helps the community. And I've made friends with the regulars that attend the same mass as us, too. I just love the vibe there and that the congregation is so eclectic.

Sometimes we go to Holy Rosary or St. Pius if we miss 10:00 at St. Joseph. The pastor at St. Pius, Fr. Jonathan - his mom was my religion teacher in 8th grade. There is one degree of separation between everyone in New Orleans. I'm sure the same is probably true for me and you, as well.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38453 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:01 pm to
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I don't endorse any of that stuff


You endorse the idea that Trayvon martin was shot and killed by police and Sandra bland was murdered by jail staff.

Care to repent or continue to believe in silence?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:04 pm to
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4cubbies
If only you and your liberal buddies cared as much about law-abiding American Citizens as you do illegals, criminals and/or both.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33351 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:06 pm to
you wont get a reply
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 4:07 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38453 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:11 pm to
Oh I know she’s refused to answer for months

It’s just funny at this point

Like what kind of coward refuses to simply admit they were wrong about something so easily proven? It’s just sad.

And she wants people to believe she is intellectually honest.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 4:12 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 9:43 pm to
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gaetti15


I had a drink earlier at a bar that’s housed in an old rectory. I was looking around and my friend asked me if I had ever been there before. I said I hadn’t and mentioned that the building where I teach catechism is an old convent and I love exploring those old properties. He said, “you’re the only real Catholic I know other than myself.”

Boom!

You make me feel like I’m back in elementary school being judged by Sr. Maria for not memorizing all my multiplication facts fast enough. The Church doesn’t really prioritize shaming the flock anymore.
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