re: Andrew Tate dares Ron DeSantis and little Twig AG to arrest him

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Here's you replying to me in this thread before I said a word to you:
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You running your mouth in a thread I wasn't even in:
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...and on and on and on.

The fact is, if you kept my name out of your mouth, we'd probably never interact. But you can't do it.

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This "FL woman" lost me at when she was lured to Romania under the pretense of a romantic relationship. The aroma of the Kavanaugh hearings is strong here.

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This pretty much sums up the Tates. Andrew got his heart broken by a chick and basically became a player. Not all that different than the story of many many men here.

In Tate's case, he basically offered a lot of these chicks an opportunity to make money and quite a few of them became millionares working as cam girls. So he was essentially a reverse gold digger.

He later quit doing this when he was able to invest the money from this into other ventures and made more money. What he did was shady and definitely not popular, but he's tried to do plenty to restore his image. He's a dude that doesn't really like women, mostly because he was hurt, but alot of what he does is try to tell men that its ok to be a man.

So many people on here hate this dude and it baffles me. Like, you don't have to be the dudes biggest fan, but in the grand scheme of things -- how are you ok with chicks doing only fans and manipulating dudes at every corner to the point where its legit a movement now. There's more single chicks in there 30s now than ever before that do nothing but hate men and he's essentially proposed that you teach men about what's going on.

Best I can figure is that you have older republicans on here that are naive as hell and simps... or maybe even married men as depending on the situation, im not sure, but single dudes that have experienced what its like out there right now dealing with women sure as hell don't hate him.

I don’t think you have to be passionate about the Tates in any direction.

Productive, normal, traditional men just won’t have any use for shock jock style social media influencers IMO.

I do think the popularity of the Tates is an indictment of the absence of actually masculine, normal male role models in our society, though. They’re filling a vacuum for profit.

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Again your obsession is weird.

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Irony ooof

He is the low t nerd of the bunch.

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Collusion of the lame dickheads that blow DeSantis just because they have raging TDS. I wonder if they circle jerk each other in their little off board chats? JJNoles is a raging democrat but they blow him and post in unison.

Any thread with DeSantis is like flies landing on a pile of dung.

They sure got pissed like lonely gossip harpy queens when Lara Trump was possibly taking Rubio's seat. They have no real scruples. They despise Trump JJNoles style---- and are afraid to say

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The only people that thought Lara would be handed that seat are the smooth brains that take DC Draino and Eric Daughtry seriously

Someone took a shot at this middle aged dude’s influencer idol and he lashes out without any sense of self awareness WHATSOEVER

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I don’t think you have to be passionate about the Tates in any direction.

Productive, normal, traditional men just won’t have any use for shock jock style social media influencers IMO.

I do think the popularity of the Tates is an indictment of the absence of actually masculine, normal male role models in our society, though. They’re filling a vacuum for profit.

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I actually agree with you in part—the Tates are filling a vacuum. But that’s the point, isn’t it? The fact that their message resonates with so many men proves that traditional masculine role models have been wiped out or discouraged.

And much like physics, there has to be an equal but opposite reaction. Society has spent years teaching women to openly hate masculinity—especially masculine men. You don’t combat that by just 'holding your chin up' and being the better man. That only works when the playing field is fair. Sometimes, the only way to push back is to be just as forceful.

That’s where the Tates come in. They highlight an uncomfortable truth: We act like we can outsmart reality and human nature with this 'all people are created equal' rhetoric, yet look at what’s happening—an entire generation of women protesting Trump, protesting masculinity, protesting biology itself, all using the same catchphrases: 'narcissist, gaslighter, toxic.' It’s a script—not an argument.

You don’t walk onto a battlefield waving a white flag until you’ve first hoisted a red one and demanded enough respect to negotiate. That’s what a lot of guys understand instinctively but traditionalists fail to acknowledge.

To put it bluntly—masculine, traditional men need to be intelligent enough to see that there’s a 'war' of sorts going on. If they want their sons to grow up in a world where masculinity is treated fairly, they can’t just rely on being 'honorable' and 'holding their head up high' without challenging the system.

Men who don’t see this usually fall into three camps:

Young and naïve (haven’t been through that first divorce yet).
Older and married (living in a different reality).
Less masculine by nature (and therefore not personally affected).
At the end of the day, if masculinity is under attack, acting like it’s not happening isn’t a solution.

I think we agree on the problem. But I don’t think the Tates are helping these guys in any way. I think the Tates are profiting themselves and leading these dudes desperate for male leadership to even more confusion with this Tate toolbox fails to improve their life at all.

And there are lots and lots - probably most - traditional, conservative guys finding their way into normal, healthy marriages and families and careers, even right now. I don’t discount that the landscape is very different, but it’s not helpful to ignore that plenty of normal guys are finding paths to normal, traditional relationships/lives.