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re: An Appeal For "Traditional Conservatives" to reconsider Populism.

Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Populism has historically appealed lower IQ people


So the founding Fathers and everybody all the way up to FDR were just low IQ people? Could you show me the IQ result of Washington or Adams?

quote:

Conservatism loses because it requires maturity to embrace.


Who are the mature GOP people we have had in Gov? The ones that "principally" expanded the welfare state? or the ones that sold out for illegal immigration?

I mean? I need some answers to change my mind.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:51 pm to
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That is counter to Populism...a plan,


Because you say so? WOW.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:51 pm to
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So the founding Fathers and everybody all the way up to FDR were just low IQ people?


Youre very confused.\

Populist politicians are opportunists. Its their voters that are low IQ and dumb.

This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 12:52 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Says the guy getting monthly stimmy checks crying all day long about the wealthy on his obama phone


If you eliminate people on government assistance from voting, you will have a much more realistic view of the American populace.

It’s hard, if not impossible, to wear two hats.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:57 pm to
You more than suggested it in your post:

quote:

Liberty and personal autonomy aren't popular to idiots who crave security and activist government, like yourself.


So you want to get of the parts that reflect "Provide for the common defense". There is no other explanation to your post. Then there is the part of the "General Welfare" (and that text has nothing to do with a welfare state).... What parts of the constitution are you wanting to get rid of that eliminates it?

Pretty straight forward question... and I think you have already answered it.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Youre very confused.\


Then "unconfuse" me and answer the content of the question.

quote:

Populist politicians are opportunists.


So every President from the beginning all the way to FDR were populist according to you.


At least we are getting somewhere now.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55421 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:03 pm to
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Pretty straight forward question... and I think you have already answered it.


He will never answer with substance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:04 pm to
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So you want to get of the parts that reflect "Provide for the common defense"


No, and that should be the extent of the Federal Govt.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:06 pm to
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What parts of the constitution do you want to eliminate?

The Constitution is literally an anti-populist governing document
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67641 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:08 pm to
What’s really funny is that wealthy financial interests are backing MAGA populism. You’ve been hoodwinked.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
3542 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:09 pm to
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So the founding Fathers and everybody all the way up to FDR were just low IQ people?


Wrong again dummy
It's just you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:09 pm to
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So every President from the beginning all the way to FDR were populist according to you.


No.

But FDR, WW, LBJ and Trump are/were.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Considering the above, how are traditional conservatives in danger of oligarical influences?

Do you think traditional conservatives are warm to big corporations?


Two words: Daily Wire

Note how Shapiro and Boring viciously attack anyone who strays from their approved narrative.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:23 pm to
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No, and that should be the extent of the Federal Govt.



So all other parts of the constitution should go?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:29 pm to
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quote:

So every President from the beginning all the way to FDR were populist according to you.



No.

But FDR, WW, LBJ and Trump are/were.



You defined populists and MAGA Conservatives as people who want the gov to tariffs on products where a nation is not holding up to their side of things.

So I will ask again.

So I ask again, So every President from the beginning all the way to FDR were populist according to you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:32 pm to
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You defined populists and MAGA Conservatives as people who want the gov to tariffs on products where a nation is not holding up to their side of things.


Populism = Opportunists (Politicians) and low IQ voters (Populists.)

The politicians know better, but cant get elected without giving you free shite at your kids and grandkids expense.

The voters are dumb humans who think a politician gives a shite about them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:33 pm to
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So all other parts of the constitution should go?
\

Not anything limiting government.

Like the second amendment your populist guy wanted to circumnavigate.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298124 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Do you think traditional conservatives are warm to big corporations?


Two words: Daily Wire



You think the Daily Wire is about promoting conservatism?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6506 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Populism = Opportunists (Politicians) and low IQ voters (Populists.)



No. You specifically in this thread stated "free markets (maga doesn't fit this)" while stating that we are populist. The only conclusion is: You defined populists and MAGA Conservatives as people who want the gov to tariffs on products where a nation is not holding up to their side of things.


Are you changing your mind on that?

quote:

The politicians know better, but cant get elected without giving you free shite at your kids and grandkids expense.


Nobody gives me anything for free. At all.



Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7245 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:39 pm to
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They couldn’t wait to vote for Bush 1/2, McCain, and Romney but now their principles must dictate that they stay home or vote third party during an era when the Left is far more insidious


I frequent another board and this rings true with I’d say half of republican voters that post there.
They just can’t get over the fact that our Country and the World was a better place when Donnie was President,
He’s an a-hole
He’s a liar
He grabs pussy
He said McCaine is a loser
He cares only about himself
He’s a Narcissist
And on and on….
These are the Holdouts of the Old GOPe Guard.
They don’t understand that MAGA is not going away once Trump is out of Office.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 1:41 pm
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