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re: American Patriot Party
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:38 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:38 pm to Fat Bastard
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keep the loser mentality thinking GOPe will reform good luck
You are a dumb mother fricker if you think Im a fan of the GOP but keep on with the petty insults while providing nothing of substance.
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:40 pm to Paddyshack
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1912 election when Roosevelt tried to run as a Progressive and Woodrow freaking Wilson ended up with 435 EVs
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The 1912 United States presidential election was the 32nd quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 5, 1912. Democratic Governor Woodrow Wilson unseated incumbent Republican President William Howard Taft and defeated former President Theodore Roosevelt, who ran under the banner of the new Progressive or "Bull Moose" Party.
We won't have the same scenario.
We need to make the RNP die in support.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:41 pm to Paddyshack
Who is keeping the RNP in business?
Newsweek
If you believe this there are many votes out there for the getting.
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A Third of Americans Sat Out the 2020 Presidential Election: Poll
Newsweek
If you believe this there are many votes out there for the getting.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:42 pm to Paddyshack
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You dont know what the hell you are talking about.
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I couldnt even vote in 2010.
thanks for confirming punk. you are clueless on the matter nor have the real world experience to discuss this.
you are not even 35. what are you? 21? LOL
no, i am not wasting anymore time on this with you. futile.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:42 pm to themunch
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We won't have the same scenario.
We need to make the RNP die in support
The only difference is that our Republican candidate wouldnt be an incumbent, right? Trump would essentially be the "Bull Moose" party, no?
I would love nothing more than a third party, a Patriot Party, but only if it results in a W. We are on the same team, but our opinions clearly differ on this topic.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:44 pm to Fat Bastard
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thanks for confirming punk. you are clueless on the matter nor have the real world experience to discuss this.
you are not even 35. what are you? 21? LOL
no, i am not wasting anymore time on this with you. futile.
You're so edgy.
Again, you dont want to talk substance, just petty insults.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:46 pm to Paddyshack
Yes we are on the same page just need to get in the same paragraph. The legs need to be taken out from under the republican party.
The one thing that is disturbing to me is how many voting precincts are under the control of one party. That is one way how we get to election integrity.
The one thing that is disturbing to me is how many voting precincts are under the control of one party. That is one way how we get to election integrity.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:51 pm to Paddyshack
study history since you were too young kid to experience it and look at now and get back with me. nobody has controlled this amount of votes like trump. trump may choose to try to help fix GOPe but it has never been done before and even he could not get all the trash out in is 4 years. trump can kill off the GOP if he wants. then work to beat democrats.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:56 pm to Fat Bastard
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study history since you were too young kid to experience it and look at now and get back with me. nobody has controlled this amount of votes like trump. trump may choose to try to help fix GOPe but it has never been done before and even he could not get all the trash out in is 4 years. trump can kill off the GOP if he wants. then work to beat democrats.
Hey dipshit, even Trump is disavowing starting up a third party now. He probably realized it wasn't a winning strategy. Also, I voted twice for Trump. And while I could vote in 2012, I chose not to vote for Romney or Obama because they were both fricking losers. So tell me again how Im stuck in some GOPe 2010 mindset. You ignorant frick. Quit engaging me or I will continue to shame you.
PS: Im quite well-versed in history too.
Anytime you want to talk subsatnce, I will be here. Or I can meet you at Sonic to discuss. Have a good evening frickstick.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:08 pm to Paddyshack
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but I can't see it.
keep faith in RINOS!
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:08 pm to Paddyshack
We do not need a Third Party. We need a New Party replacing the RNP.. There are current Republicans who want to party with the dems. So let them. They will either find a niche in that party or be left out.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:19 pm to themunch
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We do not need a Third Party. We need a New Party replacing the RNP.
So a rebranding of the Republican Party, right? Basically finishing the job that Trump started. I agree.
We can only do this by voting though, which was my point earlier. Nothing matters until we secure our elections. Otherwise the GOP will ensure they don’t lose via rigged election systems.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:24 pm to themunch
you are not replacing shite without a 3rd party to crush the GOP then you can be the 2nd party.
you are basically thinking you can dissolve, purge or reform the GOP and start over? you think they will allow that?
you are basically thinking you can dissolve, purge or reform the GOP and start over? you think they will allow that?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:32 pm to Fat Bastard
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you are not replacing shite without a 3rd party to crush the GOP then you can be the 2nd party.
Then why is Trump disavowing starting a third party, genius? Oh, smart one, please explain why that would be.
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you are basically thinking you can dissolve, purge or reform the GOP and start over? you think they will allow that?
No which is exactly why I said election integrity is the more pertinent issue, so we can primary these queers in the GOP.
Also need term limits.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:33 pm to Paddyshack
Hey Paddy. FWIW, I think your argument holds weight; and we’re it not for the Dems utter ruthlessness and corruption, honest debate and elections would be ideal. However, as we will soon see, the Dems will do ANYTHING to hold power. RINOs jumped in with Dems because if they would have backed Trump’s ‘Steal’...cities would have burned and hell would have broke loose. And the MSM would have screamed Muh Dictator 24-7, and labeled Republicans as traitors. The ‘Third Party’ is less about winning a National election Two Years from now, and more so about countering the LIES of the Dems/MSM with a massive response. The Dems need to know that that ‘fence’ and their ‘vetted’ soldiers, won’t protect them. The 3rd Party is a mouthpiece for drawing a line in the sand and rattling sabres. Sadly so. Otherwise, the Republican Party will never go there. Too hot and bloody. He’ll, I fear what it will take to turn the Democratic Authoritarian tide. Not sure whether to give our own version of‘Socialism’ a chance, or go the civil war route. We know what that will be. Nightmarish. Cheers.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:40 pm to RCDfan1950
I appreciate your response, RCD.
Again, I want nothing more than a third party to take on both the GOP and the Democrats. I also want my vote to matter and to win. If there is a way to have our cake and eat it too, I’m all for it. I just don’t want to end up like Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
Again, I want nothing more than a third party to take on both the GOP and the Democrats. I also want my vote to matter and to win. If there is a way to have our cake and eat it too, I’m all for it. I just don’t want to end up like Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:14 pm to dafif
I'm with many of the posters who agree while a 3rd party may be needed, it is not a winning strategy.
There won't be enough crossover Dems and the R vote will be split amongst two candidates.
And not all of those voters who sat out in 2020 will magically show up at the polls.
We'll be lucky to have anything left of the country in 2-4 years (better scenario if 2022 House flips). We can't sacrifice 8 years with a known 2nd place in the 2024 election.
There won't be enough crossover Dems and the R vote will be split amongst two candidates.
And not all of those voters who sat out in 2020 will magically show up at the polls.
We'll be lucky to have anything left of the country in 2-4 years (better scenario if 2022 House flips). We can't sacrifice 8 years with a known 2nd place in the 2024 election.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:46 am to dafif
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American Patriot Party
Not a fan of this name...would prefer 'Takin' America the frick Back Party'
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:42 am to AndyCBR
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I'm with many of the posters who agree while a 3rd party may be needed, it is not a winning strategy.
There won't be enough crossover Dems and the R vote will be split amongst two candidates.
And not all of those voters who sat out in 2020 will magically show up at the polls.
We'll be lucky to have anything left of the country in 2-4 years (better scenario if 2022 House flips). We can't sacrifice 8 years with a known 2nd place in the 2024 election.
Andy, apparently you and I are on an island here. I agree with your entire post but there are pure geniuses in this thread like Fat Bastard who will personally attack you for making these suggestions and pointing out that it’s perhaps not the best strategy
The “lose now, win later” mentality Is the only acceptable answer to those geniuses.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:32 pm to Paddyshack
How about giving us a list of republicans in the house and senate you would re-elect tomorrow.
I think maybe 5 from both. Yes that’s worth keeping a party for. Sorry burning the gop to the ground is what is needed. A new party would have more support than any new party formed before. New candidates would energize.
Any platform to get rid of the gop
I think maybe 5 from both. Yes that’s worth keeping a party for. Sorry burning the gop to the ground is what is needed. A new party would have more support than any new party formed before. New candidates would energize.
Any platform to get rid of the gop
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