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re: American Patriot Party
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:09 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:09 pm to RCDfan1950
Thank you.
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:10 pm to TDFreak
Haha. Someone downvoted my post. I think a quote is apt here:
Enjoy your dying political party, timid downvoting Republican supporter. I am ready for a new Party that actually represents me.
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“History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower
Enjoy your dying political party, timid downvoting Republican supporter. I am ready for a new Party that actually represents me.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:19 pm to RCDfan1950
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There will be no electoral win going forward, P...unless, people who believe in voting, believe that it is worth their effort. The RINOs effectively undermine any such effort, as they lend 'plausible deniability' to the Dem's lies by agreeing. Think the fraudulent election.
Biden/Dems don't need fake votes any more. They will rule by Presidential EO and Congressional 'Reconciliation', stack the Courts, open the Border and give Amnesty/Subsidies to enough immigrants to assure electoral superiority...via a Pure Democracy (I.e., "fundamental change"_).
Not voting isn't a strategy either. That's called giving up.
I still don't understand how, given everything you just described, you elect a third party candidate when the election system is rigged. Based on your argument, it is only going to get worse.
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The coming Counterrevolutionary Movement must be a Public Entity, wherein a soon to be MINORITY (though many in number) organizes, strategizes and defines moral arguments and draws their lines in the sand.
Was that not essentially what Trumps movement was/is?
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The Republican Party did not fight dirty like the Dems; so they have lost the fight.
It's not that they didn't fight dirty, they didn't fight at all because they too wanted Trump gone. They all know he won the election. I still don't see how creating a third party results in a win. Sorry, I will bow out now.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:20 pm to Paddyshack
The GOP is not even trying to fix the rigged election. A 3rd party would make the GOP fight for us or get replaced.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:22 pm to tjv305
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Not voting isn't a strategy either. That's called giving up.
Who is not voting? Who is giving up? We need change now.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:25 pm to tjv305
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The GOP is not even trying to fix the rigged election. A 3rd party would make the GOP fight for us or get replaced.
You would still have Republicans that wouldn't switch parties. You are still splitting the vote amongst conservatives. I don't see how to get around that.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:28 pm to themunch
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Who is not voting? Who is giving up?
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unless, people who believe in voting, believe that it is worth their effort. The RINOs effectively undermine any such effort, as they lend 'plausible deniability' to the Dem's lies by agreeing.
I took this as, with the current GOP still in tact, people will be less willing to show up and vote in future elections based on the 2020 election. That may be true, but those people aren't very intelligent. Not voting isnt a strategy.
But again, the more pertinent issue in my mind is election integrity. Without that, it doesnt matter who we vote for, the outcome will be predetermined, as we just witnessed.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:30 pm to dafif
George Soros says thank you for your contributions.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:31 pm to dafif
correct. short term pain for long term gain.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:31 pm to Paddyshack
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You would still have Republicans that wouldn't switch parties. You are still splitting the vote amongst conservatives
You can influence votes from all present parties. It is doable.
We have not always had these two leading parties.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:32 pm to Paddyshack
Maybe the new party will bring in new voters like Trump did . The GOO would be left with money and no voters.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:33 pm to Paddyshack
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the more pertinent issue in my mind is election integrity.
Absolutely.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:33 pm to dafif
Hell yeah!! Split the conservative vote so liberal policies can finally take root :dance:
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:33 pm to tjv305
A 3rd party isn't going anywhere without Trump's involvement. By the time said 3rd party would have any chance of being relevant, they'd already have us on tbe trains.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:34 pm to Paddyshack
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Paddyshack
you are stuck in 2010 tea party mode
howd that work out for you again??
no better time than now with the MAGAs.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:35 pm to themunch
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You can influence votes from all present parties. It is doable.
Can you prove it is doable? Do you have information that leads you to believe it is doable?
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We have not always had these two leading parties.
Perhaps not these two parties specifically, but have we not always had two main parties? Again, I provided info regarding the 1912 election when Roosevelt tried to run as a Progressive and Woodrow freaking Wilson ended up with 435 EVs. Tell how to prevent a similar scenario, even assuming we have a fair election.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:35 pm to burger bearcat
A 3rd party isn't going anywhere without Trump's involvement.
Who said he would not be?
Who said he would not be?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:36 pm to icheerforgeorgia
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Split the conservative vote
you are one dumb bitch.
GOPe conservative?
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liberal
you are a commie not a libtard
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:36 pm to Fat Bastard
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you are stuck in 2010 tea party mode
You dont know what the hell you are talking about. I couldnt even vote in 2010. I am as far from Tea Party as it gets. I want to win but I dont believe this is a winning strategy until someone can show me, logistically, how it would be done.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:37 pm to Paddyshack
keep the loser mentality thinking GOPe will reform good luck
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