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re: Amber Vinson - 2nd Nurse - May have been sick before leaving to Ohio
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:23 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:23 pm to mmcgrath
Did you see the part of my quote that you ignored where it was quoting the government and what happened when she called the CDC? You know, according to the CDC.
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:24 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Her friends and/or family dimed her out. And a lot of people are grateful that they did.
They dimed her out about the possible symptoms prior to Monday. That has nothing to do with whether or not she called the CDC about flying home on Monday.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:24 pm to LSUGrrrl
He's just trolling at this point. He knows he's lying.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:28 pm to the808bass
I still want to know if anyone can tell me who this 4th unnamed Ebola patient is
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quote:
Vinson was flown Wednesday to Atlanta's Emory University Hospital, where her uncle and family spokesman Lawrence Vinson characterized her as "stable."
Workers at that hospital -- which previously treated Americans Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol for Ebola -- are also caring for an unnamed person with Ebola who came there September 9Kent
Another person being treated for the virus, freelance NBC cameraman Ashoka Mukpo, is "getting better every day" at Nebraska Medical Center, said hospital spokesman Taylor Wilson of Thursday.
The fourth person with Ebola in the United States, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital nurse Nina Pham, is heading to a National Institutes of Health hospital in Bethesda, Maryland, just outside Washington.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:29 pm to the808bass
quote:Right.
He's just trolling at this point. He knows he's lying.
Let's be crystal clear though.
He knows he's lying about a 29y/o healthcare worker who may have sacrificed her life, or her life-long health, for the benefit of another.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:30 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:Likely someone pulled out of Liberia then.
No. I must be missing something bc this is their full "list":
quote:The question to the uncle was very clear and he answered it in detail. Here's the video: LINK
Also, I think it's more likely that Gibson's family member misspoke than the CDC took responsibility for OKing her flight home if they didn't make the call. If fact, the CDC said that they made a, "bad call" by allowing her to fly back to Dallas
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:36 pm to mmcgrath
So they pulled a person from Liberia and broughgbthem here for treatment and we don't know about it.
The CDC did testify today they they made a bad call allowing her to fly home on Monday. It seems that they were contacted about it and have her the green light.
The CDC did testify today they they made a bad call allowing her to fly home on Monday. It seems that they were contacted about it and have her the green light.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:44 pm to mmcgrath
quote:And he said the CDC was contacted. Hang on, let me listen again . . . . . Yep . . . . . wait . . . . let me listen once more . . . . . yep he says the same thing every damn time . . . "the CDC was contacted"
the uncle was very clear and he answered it in detail
He also said Amber was on no travel restrictions.
So you are saying Frieden perjured himself today.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:45 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:Did a detailed search. We do know about it. If the mention of it in the article you cited wasn't enough, here is an earlier article: LINK
So they pulled a person from Liberia and broughgbthem here for treatment and we don't know about it.
quote:She was not told to not get on the plane. You do remember a lesson or two about double negatives, right? And according to the uncle it wasn't a direct communication. The CDC was using the information it had at the time they testified.
The CDC did testify today they they made a bad call allowing her to fly home on Monday. It seems that they were contacted about it and have her the green light.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:48 pm to mmcgrath
quote:"After multiple calls, the CDC said it was OK to fly."
She was not told to not get on the plane.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:49 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Jeebus some Jimmies are rustled in here.
From listening to the uncle's interview, Texas called her in Ohio and asked if she had symptoms. She said no. Before she flew, she called Texas reporting the low grade fever and asked if she should fly. Texas called the CDC and asked. According to Frieden, no symptoms were reported. He also said she shouldn't have flown. So that either means Texas failed to tell the CDC about her temperature or they did and the cdc screwed up.
I'm just wondering why all the yelling. The hospital screwed up when Duncan's history wasn't relayed, apparently the nurse was inconsistent (first one) when asked how she followed protocol. The second nurse should have known better not to fly. Fortunately for folks in the US, this isn't the killer that the media is telling us. Survival rates are significantly higher here and hopefully this blood transfusion from survivors works as well as it appears to have preliminarily.
But people frick up. Every day.
So why are the yelling and name calling? You guys act like you're watching a football game.
From listening to the uncle's interview, Texas called her in Ohio and asked if she had symptoms. She said no. Before she flew, she called Texas reporting the low grade fever and asked if she should fly. Texas called the CDC and asked. According to Frieden, no symptoms were reported. He also said she shouldn't have flown. So that either means Texas failed to tell the CDC about her temperature or they did and the cdc screwed up.
I'm just wondering why all the yelling. The hospital screwed up when Duncan's history wasn't relayed, apparently the nurse was inconsistent (first one) when asked how she followed protocol. The second nurse should have known better not to fly. Fortunately for folks in the US, this isn't the killer that the media is telling us. Survival rates are significantly higher here and hopefully this blood transfusion from survivors works as well as it appears to have preliminarily.
But people frick up. Every day.
So why are the yelling and name calling? You guys act like you're watching a football game.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:54 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:It's the JJ/JL thing all over again. We just have no idea if we are rooting for JJ or JL.
So why are the yelling and name calling? You guys act like you're watching a football game.
Edit: And I think I have been pretty tame on any name calling. I have had names thrown at me in much larger venues and didn't respond in kind then.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:55 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:No.
The hospital screwed up when Duncan's history wasn't relayed, apparently the nurse was inconsistent (first one) when asked how she followed protocol.
quote:No.
The second nurse should have known better not to fly.
and ftr, you remember my 'suspicion' yesterday regarding first vs second hospital visit exposure? Testimony today confirmed the suspicion. Both women were ICU RNs. Only contacted Duncan during his second stay. They were in full PPE IAW CDC Recs in all instances of contact according to testimony.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:10 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I have had names thrown at me
It's because you're obviously lying.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:12 pm to the808bass
Is no one going to mention the dude from Nigeria throwing up on the flight to JFK and then dying?
I don't want to panic, but jeezus.
I don't want to panic, but jeezus.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:13 pm to the808bass
quote:I wasn't then and I am not now. Really I am just relaying facts from the TV interviews and news reports. Not even sure why personal attacks are necessary. NC_Tigah has a dog in the hunt, but you are a decent poster who is only joining of late.
It's because you're obviously lying.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:15 pm to the808bass
quote:link / source please? And I don't believe that Nigeria would be on the suggested "flight ban" list.
Is no one going to mention the dude from Nigeria throwing up on the flight to JFK and then dying?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
No
Yes.
Duncan arrived in Dallas from Liberia on Sept. 20 and went to the hospital on Sept. 26 with a 103-degree fever. He told a nurse he had recently been in Liberia but was sent home with antibiotics and told to take Tylenol for his pain, which he said was severe. He returned in an ambulance two days later when his symptoms worsened and was later isolated and diagnosed with Ebola. That is a frickup and the hospital apologized to his family.
quote:Just as I said
On Monday morning, an official with direct knowledge of the Texas nurse's case told CNN that CDC disease detectives interviewed the nurse several times and thought there were "inconsistencies" in the type of personal protective gear she wore and with the process used to put the gear on and remove it.
quote:
No
Yes. She knew a co-worker had it and she had a fever albeit low grade. Any reasonable person could conclude she may be in danger. And she may have but believed if she did have it, she it hadn't kicked in high gear such that she would endanger others. Who knows. But she, a Texas and the cdc should have grounded her.
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and ftr, you remember my 'suspicion' yesterday regarding first vs second hospital visit exposure? Testimony today confirmed the suspicion. Both women were ICU RNs. Only contacted Duncan during his second stay. They were in full PPE IAW CDC Recs in all instances of contact according to testimony.
Good call. Anytime there's a breaking story, the media tries to be first and the "telephone game" results in wrong info.
But read the story I linked about the nurses at the hospital. 77 people cared for him and didn't get it. Clearly these two had some unintentional contact. Intubation, kidney dialysis, contamination is possible with one misstep.
I can't honestly see why you're trying to blame the CDC rather than the hospital and the nurses. Unless you have an agenda.
And I certainly leave open that the CDC has screwed up. The plane decision may be on them. But I haven't seen how they're to blame with these two contaminations
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:19 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:20 pm to mmcgrath
You're cherry picking facts. The CDC has testified and given multiple statements that they had contact with Vinson. You still choose to obfuscate their statements or ignore them. It's very odd.
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