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Amber Guyger murder conviction appeal hearing today.

Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:06 am
I think she was over-charged. Should have been manslaughter like the cop who accidently grabbed the Taser.


Amber Guyger to appeal murder conviction in killing of Botham Jean at Tuesday hearing

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DALLAS - Attorneys for convicted murderer Amber Guyger will make their case Tuesday to have her conviction overturned for killing Botham Jean.

Guyger, an off-duty Dallas police officer at the time of the deadly shooting, admits she entered Jean's apartment by mistake thinking it was hers and shot Jean thinking he was an intruder.

Guyger’s attorneys are appealing to have the charge reduced and her sentence based on that reduced charge.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:07 am to
Another dumbass woman cop who clearly should never have been on the force to begin with.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:08 am to
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Another dumbass woman cop who clearly should never have been on the force to begin with.




OK, but that is a separate question.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:09 am to
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Another dumbass woman cop who clearly should never have been on the force to begin with.



Why act like women are the only gender fricking up policing?



Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:10 am to
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Why act like women are the only gender fricking up policing?



Because these two incidents are an entirely different level of total incompetence from the other officer involved shootings that normally occur. I don’t care what happens to either of them. That level of sheer incompetence, negligence, and/or raw stupidity may as well be criminal in my mind.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:10 am to
She broke and entered into the wrong apartment through her own frickup and killed a guy.

That's not manslaughter, that's murder by being a drunken idiot.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:10 am to
frick her.
She walks inside the man’s apartment while he was eating ice cream and shoots him dead.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:11 am to
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OK, but that is a separate question.


It may be beside the point, but still relevant.

Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:13 am to
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Should have been manslaughter


That was what the Texas Rangers who initially investigated this case recommended.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:13 am to
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Why act like women are the only gender fricking up policing?



Actually, it wasn’t policing. She did it while off duty. Any drunk woman could’ve done it.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:14 am to
No, her conviction needs to stick. She fricked up MULTIPLE times there leading to a completely innocent guy's life being ended.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:16 am to
Zero sympathy for that gal.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:16 am to
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That was what the Texas Rangers who initially investigated this case recommended.


right, an that by no means is "getting off". Manslaughter is still a felony.
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:18 am to
Yeah but he had ‘gasp’ marijuana in his apartment
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:20 am to
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Zero sympathy for that gal.



I don't have too much, but it's a little more than zero.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:27 am to
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That's not manslaughter, that's murder by being a drunken idiot.


Even if she was drunk, it is manslaughter - like a drunk running a red light and killing a group of girl scouts in a school bus.

Murder needs to have some element of malevolence involved in the event.

Now there should be a level of manslaughter that contains a severity of penalty to match the magnitude of the incompetence whether caused by mental deficiency or recklessness or incompetence of the offender. Hell, I can envision a death sentence for some form of manslaughter that grew out of abnormally reckless behavior.

Lets not dilute the "murder" word with application to incompetence. Some level of conscious criminal intent must be a prerequisite for a murder charge.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:29 am to
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Another dumbass woman cop who clearly should never have been on the force to begin with
so your opinion disputes hers

it's a guyger counter
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:33 am to
all I expect is for her to get the same punishment the rest of us would get.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:36 am to
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I think she was over-charged.


I'm torn. In Louisiana, I think that's still murder. Justification has to be valid and the shooter bears the burden of a mistake.

Had she been in her own home? I think the shoot is justified, she walks and maybe keeps her job.

Going into someone else's home and going immediately to lethal force without justification (her belief, which I believe is sincere, it was her own home should mitigate the sentence, I think)?

Certainly feels more like murder than, say, Chauvin and Floyd.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:38 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20271 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:40 am to
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I don't have too much, but it's a little more than zero.


I don't have much sympathy for her either, but I hate to see prosecutions based upon mob demands rather than the law and the facts. The Dallas County prosecutor bent to the will of the mobs in this case.
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