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re: Allison Mack was sex trafficking children
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:13 am to Sentrius
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:13 am to Sentrius
Something to note-
At one point, Mack was cross promoting a different cult leader, Marina Abramovic, of “spirit cooking” infamy.
Abramovic’s rituals apparently have included children, such as one pictured before involving Lady Gaga.
Not that there is proof that the children in that ritual were abused by anything other than bad taste, but I find it curious that a number of the people whose names came up in association with “pizzagate” appear to be popping back up through other connections.
At one point, Mack was cross promoting a different cult leader, Marina Abramovic, of “spirit cooking” infamy.
Abramovic’s rituals apparently have included children, such as one pictured before involving Lady Gaga.
Not that there is proof that the children in that ritual were abused by anything other than bad taste, but I find it curious that a number of the people whose names came up in association with “pizzagate” appear to be popping back up through other connections.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:32 am to Sentrius
Sentrius, I almost feel like you're trying to possibly minimize this heinous act. Whether the kid is 5 or 10, they are still innocent freaking kids and there should be no difference. Why does this need more clarity, it's all sick and needs to be killed with fire.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:36 am to Sentrius
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Sentrius
Why, in your mind, is there a difference between Hebephilia and Pedophilia? Do you think a 13 year old has a "choice"?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:37 am to Sentrius
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Are we talking 11-12 year olds going through puberty or full-blown toddlers that are barely toilet trained?
or 16-17 year olds, which is what i'd guess
it may be the children of some women in the cult, too
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:39 am to pcolatiger28
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Sentrius, I almost feel like you're trying to possibly minimize this heinous act. Whether the kid is 5 or 10, they are still innocent freaking kids and there should be no difference
it may not be "kids" at all. it may be 17 year olds who are just under a magical, legal line
this case is really screwy. it seems like a garden variety cult by the early reports
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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or 16-17 year olds, which is what i'd guess
The 2 witnesses against Raniere were 12 and 15 when he had sex with them. They also run a place called "Rainbow Gardens Children Center". So there's that. This is going to open a huge rabbit hole.
There is a Senator whos dad is their lobbyist, and the 2 Seagram daughters (Bronfman) put a key logger on their dad's computer and caught all kinds of correspondence with Hillary and others.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:42 am to Tiger in NY
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This is going to open a huge rabbit hole.
if he was actually having sex with 12 year olds, not really
it's going to be pretty simple
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and the 2 Seagram daughters (Bronfman) put a key logger on their dad's computer and caught all kinds of correspondence with Hillary and others.
now that may be fun
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:43 am to Tiger in NY
As mentioned in the Gillibrand thread, this helps put into perspective the kinds of offers Gillibrand used to make to Trump when trying to get donations for the NY state Dems.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
That was the rabbit hole I meant. I can almost guarantee that Chuck Schumer will come up too.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:45 am to Tiger in NY
sorry. i don't know much about this case b/c i figured it would piss me off
the initial reports came off as fedgov using a new, over broad "sex trafficking" statute to attack a normal cult
the initial reports came off as fedgov using a new, over broad "sex trafficking" statute to attack a normal cult
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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the initial reports came off as fedgov using a new, over broad "sex trafficking" statute to attack a normal cult
Yep, that's the cover. Media Matters America does not want this out, so the CNN/NBC group is staying away. I have a feeling this guy's "Executive Seminars" were nothing more than a chance for people involved (such as Richard Branson) to screw the NXIVM girls at $10k a pop.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:49 am to Champagne
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These photos are fakes.
He got all excited by those photoshops.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:51 am to Tiger in NY
that's an interesting angle
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
The general info for a while now had been that this was a sex slave cult under the guise of “executive training” classes, with Mack and Kristen Kreuk of Smallville both being involved.
The charges have now expanded that story a bit, with other D list Hollywood actresses being involved and the first rumblings of underaged sex slaves, along with the names of various politicians and heiresses being connected.
The charges have now expanded that story a bit, with other D list Hollywood actresses being involved and the first rumblings of underaged sex slaves, along with the names of various politicians and heiresses being connected.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:54 am to teke184
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sex slave cult
well my problem with this prosecution center on just this. cults are not, and should not, be illegal
it's a general disdain for the new moral panic, "sex trafficking" which requires many logical leaps i refuse to believe in
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and the first rumblings of underaged sex slaves
now this...this would be a problem
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
The cult is overly litigious and controlling, amongst other things.
It’s like Scientology if members were given a quota of new sex slaves to recruit for the elders of the group.
It’s like Scientology if members were given a quota of new sex slaves to recruit for the elders of the group.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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it may not be "kids" at all. it may be 17 year olds who are just under a magical, legal line this case is really screwy. it seems like a garden variety cult by the early reports
Hell yes. Sex slave trafficking should be legal, especially if the slaves are age of consent.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:58 am to notsince98
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Sex slave trafficking should be legal, especially if the slaves are age of consent.
the problem is how you define "slave"
it's going to require a lot of nanny state-esque dissolution of an adult's right to consent and make their own decisions
that's the problem i have
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:58 am to teke184
I would want to bang fresh off the bus 17y olds with Allison Mavk
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:02 am to Tiger in NY
The irony is that Chloe is on her own wall of weird and may be the investigative key to bringing down the entire US government 
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