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re: All You Had To Do Was Critically Investigate 911 And None Of This Would Be Happening
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:33 pm to bluedragon
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:33 pm to bluedragon
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The nose cone on an airliner is made of plastic and houses radar and electronics. No way in hell it survives a 500 mph impact of the outer skin of first wall, much les furnishings and the second wall on exit. No such remnant of a nose cone was ever found.
I didn’t say a damn thing about nose-cones or black boxes.
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Government records…are not housed in one or two locations. Should the records be destroyed…each reporting department can easily duplicate their individual reports.
And we aren’t discussing normal budgeted government expenditures but trillions of dollars of unaccounted Pentagon funds.
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Last but not least….name the airplane, jet or airline crash sites you have personally been on while debris is still one the ground.
What? The debris field of a plane crash has not a damn thing to do with any topic I have broached in this thread.
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You claim a lot of trash depending on the stupidity of someone else, equally uninformed.
Oh, the kill shot!
You know, going back to Toomer’s, I’ve gone out of my way to approach our disagreements over the Iraq War in an agreeable manner but I see you have no intention whatsoever to reciprocate.
C'est la vie.
You have invested so much energy into white-knighting for George Bush and WMDs with so little return you are butthurt. Your continual defense of our nation’s wholly corrupted national security apparatus has revealed you to be a tool or a fool.
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:36 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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the idea that separate beams simultaneously failed causing the WTC to completely pancake instead of fall at an angle is quite odd. The area of impact somehow collapsed at the exact same moment as the opposite side. Jet fuel somehow spread across the entire building creating heat that affected structural beams throughout the building at identical rates. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.
It didn’t collapse symmetrically
The top parts of the buildings fell at angles and then collapsed down into the footprint of the “exoskeleton” of the building
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:38 pm to allrightX3
So your understanding of physics leads you to believe that everything in that building should have been consumed by the fireball created when the fuel from those planes ignited? That's your theory?
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:41 pm to rmnldr
Same guy thinks that if you jumped off the top of one of those buildings, you should be able to make it into the Hudson River.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:41 pm to boxcar willie
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How dumb is the bull crap that we are on a rock spinning in circles flying through the air at thousands of miles per hour
What do you think causes the sun to rise in the morning, track its way across the sky and set in the evening? It's the Earth spinning in a circle.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:44 pm to DreauxB2015
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How do you purpose an aluminum airplane went through a concrete building intact and came out the other side? But those pesky birds ......
That's not the "nose" of the plane you imbecile.
That's a 500mph 40 foot wide shotgun blast of building debris, airplane parts, human remains, and whatever the hell else got blown out of the side of the building after the initial impact.
You people (911 truthers) draw false equivalency everywhere.
Yes, a bird strike can penetrate the aluminum skin of an aircraft. But I hope you don't believe the mass and energy of an aircraft of this size reacts the way an aluminum skin does when it flies into a building.
This is simple physics and you guys get it wrong every time.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:46 pm to skeeter531
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Not one video of a plane hitting the Pentagon. All local video from businesses in area was confiscated and never seen again. Some people did see a plane go over but maybe a missile hit the Pentagon and the plane pulled up and flew past (part of the plan) Why didn't the ground to air missiles that are there to protect the Pentagon engage?
Beside all the airplane wreckage, if they did use a missile or suicide drone to destroy part of Pentagon there would surely be more damage. An airplane crashing into the building is like humming an aluminum can at a cinder block. A missile or suicide drone loaded with explosives would’ve done a lot more damage.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:47 pm to allrightX3
A pilot with a 100 dollar gun could have done what a 700 billion dollar defense budget couldn’t.
Hoppe
May have that quote messed up a little.
Hoppe
May have that quote messed up a little.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:48 pm to AndyCBR
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AndyCBR
The truthers don’t want facts. They’ve made up their minds. Them arguing about what happened in Manhattan is always a joke because it was only one of the most recorded events in human history.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:48 pm to jawnybnsc
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So your understanding of physics leads you to believe that everything in that building should have been consumed by the fireball created when the fuel from those planes ignited?
Nope. Not talking about a piece of paper on a desk on floor 11.
Talking about a passport inside a plane that exploded into a massive fireball on impact with a steel building going hundreds of miles an hour. I find, as any human should, that to be odd to the point of impossible.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:49 pm to Hayekian serf
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A pilot with a 100 dollar gun could have done what a 700 billion dollar defense budget couldn’t.
I guess the USS Cole bombing was a false flag as well
And the first attack on the WTC parking garage
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:50 pm to rmnldr
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The truthers don’t want facts.
If you read this thread you'd find the opposite to be true, as people like yourself do not want to acquire information on this event. It is all firewalled for your own emotional safety.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:50 pm to allrightX3
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I find, as any human should, that to be odd to the point of impossible.
It’s not impossible. Improbable, sure. But not impossible.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:53 pm to allrightX3
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If you read this thread you'd find the opposite to be true, as people like yourself do not want to acquire information on this event. It is all firewalled for your own emotional safety.
I’ve probably done more acquisition of information than you ever have on 9/11. I was once a “truther” myself. You are the one that relies on conspiracy theories for your own “emotional safety”
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:53 pm to rmnldr
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Beside all the airplane wreckage, if they did use a missile or suicide drone to destroy part of Pentagon there would surely be more damage. An airplane crashing into the building is like humming an aluminum can at a cinder block. A missile or suicide drone loaded with explosives would’ve done a lot more damage.
This comment is made in ignorance as you are either not aware or are not taking into account what was hit at the Pentagon - the budget analyst office.
If one of the many agendas in play on 911 was to eliminate evidence and traceability of 2.3 Trillion dollars of black budget spending, you'd want to destroy the location at the Pentagon and the other location inside WTC7, which is what happened.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:55 pm to rmnldr
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you are the one that relies on conspiracy theories for your own “emotional safety
Anything I've shared here is acquirable information, not a theory.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 4:01 pm to allrightX3
What you just posted is part of a conspiracy theory.
I’m not arguing about what was hit inside the Pentagon. Simply the fact that it was an airplane and nothing else. The events themselves happened as described. Whether or not the US gov was involved I can’t dispute.
I’m not arguing about what was hit inside the Pentagon. Simply the fact that it was an airplane and nothing else. The events themselves happened as described. Whether or not the US gov was involved I can’t dispute.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 4:03 pm to rmnldr
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I find, as any human should, that to be odd to the point of impossible.
It’s not impossible. Improbable, sure. But not impossible.
This quote is why this form of communication is a waste of time when someone like yourself needs to cope more than they desire genuine dialogue.
Cutting off the statement that followed that sentence makes your comment completely redundant and void of any relevance.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 4:08 pm to allrightX3
I think a lot about that day is fishy. I don't know about the main towers, but I will always believe WTC7 was demolished. That building was spy heaven and had Rudy's super double double secret reinforced bunker. But, I don't know the reason for destroying it other than the SEC records. If you think this was an inside job, then maybe it was run from there?
Back in the day, I honed in on the wargames exercises. At minimum, I think they may have been going to paralyze air defense. Whatever was going on at that flight school was probably an intel operation. I have no idea what happened at the Pentagon. I think the missile theories are probably disinfo, but there has to be a reason the whole scene was sketchy. The one thread holding the official story together is the cell/air phone calls. Were family members on the ground duped or were they totally faked? If the calls were real, then the only thing I can think of to support the conspiracy theories is the hijackers thought they were running drills and they got duped by remote control or something.
Back in the day, I honed in on the wargames exercises. At minimum, I think they may have been going to paralyze air defense. Whatever was going on at that flight school was probably an intel operation. I have no idea what happened at the Pentagon. I think the missile theories are probably disinfo, but there has to be a reason the whole scene was sketchy. The one thread holding the official story together is the cell/air phone calls. Were family members on the ground duped or were they totally faked? If the calls were real, then the only thing I can think of to support the conspiracy theories is the hijackers thought they were running drills and they got duped by remote control or something.
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