re: All heterosexual men are "sexual predators"

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You need to realize you can't say stupid shite or make sexual advancements to women at work.

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The barmaids where I drink don't seem to mind.

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Or you can just be respecrful and not be a creepy hornball if you work around women.

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What if some said woman didn't care for you in the workplace and gathers a couple of her girlfriends to just toss out an accusation. How would you defend it?

What's that saying that gays use to facilitate acceptance?

Oh, right,

"Born that way"

When I first started my career I was put in charge of a girl right out of college who I worked with closely. She wasn't very good at her job so I had to cover for her alot. About a week before her annual review she told our partner that I made her feel "uncomfortable", which is apparently what can be used when you never actually did anything specific. It is general enough that people just assume that you actually did something and they just don't want to say specifically. Well the partner wrote her review and gave her great marks and I got taken off the engagement. I never spoke to her again. I found out months later that she actually made exactly the same complaint on her next assignment about a manager that would never have been inappropriate with her. After that they assigned her to an all female team, and she was fired within a few months. She just wasn't good at the work but knew that she could skate for a long time by making these kinds of complaints. In the meantime, good men are having their reputations tarnished by this BS.

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You speak wisely. A lot of people were giving Mike Pence flak for his personal conviction about not being alone with a woman who isn't his wife, but there are practical benefits to that. He doesn't open himself up to exploitation and he doesn't get tempted to do something he doesn't otherwise want to do. It's a protection for himself, his wife, his family, his faith, and any woman who he might otherwise be with.

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I honestly didn't even know that about Pence. He knows the game. He knows your are guilty until proven innocent in public eye (not court) and can ruin your career. He is wise enough to know that 'plants' can be placed to grow and infiltrate and destroy targets, such as himself, if he isn't careful.

I will use another biblical quote (analogy): 1 Peter 5:8

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Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

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If someone reads that and can't comprehend what I am saying (that to use sound wisdom at all times as (place name, gender, person) will be looking to devour. It is sound wisdom on life in general.


My brother was accused of something worse than this while attending ULM Nursing school years ago. It was an outright fabricated lie by people (mostly women) within the Nursing department. They made a lie that he and an attractive teacher on staff were having an affair. The lie went all the way up to the to of the food chain in the Nursing Department. He had to address that lie straight on. She was married and he was forced to address that to her family. A total lie.

What people will do these days to destroy someone to gain an advantage or to have a threat taken out is surreal. It is a dog-eat-dog world indeed.

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This is a dumb thread.

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This is a dumb post.

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There are a lot of false sexual harassment accusations made by women in the workplace against heterosexual men that they just don't like for whatever reason including political differences.

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But that wasn't the point of the OP.

The OP wasn't about FALSE sexual harassment accusations. It was making the point that men should be allowed to "be men" and make sexual comments or play grab-arse with office females because "that's what being heterosexual is about". It was clearly a lament for the days of being able to do those things without consequence.

It doesn't bother me that "men" (really, boys) can't behave like mooks anymore. I just don't find it professional. I'd like to go to work and just do my job. I don't need or want the workplace to be a forum for discussing Sarah's titties. Do that in a bar.

Thank you. That's exactly my point, but you stated it better.

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Not defending O'Reilly, who is a known sexual deviant and grade-A scumbag. But harassment violations have become incentivized through payouts and career advancement for quite some time. You have to be Pence-level diligent to come close to ensuring that nothing gets lobbed against you-and even then, you're a target. Note, none of these rules apply to women in the workplace. The women I've worked with have said and done shite that would get men fired on the spot, but HR doesn't give a damn.

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I agree with all of this. Well said. If THIS was the OP's argument I would have assented.

The problem is that while there are a TON of false accusations being leveled these days ruining lives and careers, there are also guys like the OP who think not pinching asses and talking about their dicks in front of women in the office is "acting homosexual". I've seen it and my wife has experienced it. If cringeworthy shite like the OP wasn't still happening for real, it would be a lot harder to make false allegations because they wouldn't be as believable.