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re: Alabama could pass a near-total ban on abortion as soon as Tuesday

Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:50 pm to
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If you don’t know the answer to this, you need to go read something.
The thing you said to read doesn't say anything about it
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 pm to
well?

If you're a scholar, say it.

Our eggs heads haven't figured it out yet.

I'll wait.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 pm to
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Nothing in the Constitution about abortion. You really wanna stretch and twist you can argue it to fit whatever whim you desire, which is what they did in '73. It could just as easily do it the other way. Scratch that, much more easily. Much more correctly.
So much more easily that it’s been 46 years and there have been only 61mllion abortions since then.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 pm to
I didn’t identify the thing to read.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 pm to
Total virtue signaling. Won’t amount to anything. Waste of time.
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:52 pm to
This is for you Alabama!

Posted by genro
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:52 pm to
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I didn’t identify the thing to read.
True. You said it rhymes with Schmonstitution. Silly me. You could've been talking about anything.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 5:53 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:52 pm to
But what does this have to do with the constitution?

How many deaths by gunfire do we have every year?

I'm pro gun.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:54 pm to
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You said it rhymes with Schmonstitution. Silly me. You could've been talking about anything.

That was a different post.
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:55 pm to
This is for you Alabama!

Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:55 pm to
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But what does this have to do with the constitution?
It’s why nine people paid to be rational will oppose it.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:56 pm to
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It’s why nine people paid to be rational will oppose it.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:56 pm to
Right. That was before you realized it wasn't in the Constitution.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:00 pm to
Your play-by-play isn’t very good.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:01 pm to
If I’m raped I’m heading straight to the police department where they will send me to a hospital that will administer the plan B. The 5 day rule is sufficient to cover the rape allegation.

Frankly I see no reason to allow a “rape” exception aside from the administration of Plan B within 5 days. If you’re waiting 6wks to tell the cops you’re raped, I’m sort of doubtful rape actually happened (unless you were actually held captive).

I do think that the appropriate legislative solution is to ban all abortions after 20 wks, with only for a reason that would threaten the life of the mother or another child in utero after a heartbeat but before the expiration of 20 weeks. There is no medical reason justifying an abortion in the 3rd Trimester
Posted by Lickitty Split
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:02 pm to
I’m only chiming in to raise a point most likely lost on 99% of people. I doubt it’s been raised here.

In order to be a mother, you must be with “child” or give birth to a “child.” If what inside the pregnant woman is not a child then the woman is not a/the mother.

Once you realize this, you can then conclude that the rightful owners have equal say in what happens to the embryo. If they cannot agree to a resolution, the embryo should be born. The parent who argues for life should accept full responsibility only when the other parent formally responds with a nullification of their rights to the child.

This resolution allows for people to see who are the deadbeat mothers and fathers. It also requires an action on the possible father(s) in order to protect his rights to a potential heir or his future earnings. No possible father could assert his right to the property without a sworn affidavit stating his sexual activity with the female in the corresponding period to conception. Any denial of said activity by the mother would require a contradictory hearing whereby the father would have to show by a preponderance of the evidence why he may be the father.

There’s your answer to the majority of the problems that come with abortion. Obviously, none of this matters if the mother is deemed to be with “child” and a human being resides within her.

To answer the question the could be posed by the subject matter presented in the original post, Any person accused of rape or incest relinquishes their right to the child. Any child born of such actions results in the victim’s decision alone. However, if both are culprits then the child becomes property of the state. No culprit of rape can be a victim of incest.

Each person should be equally responsible for their decisions.

For the record, I’m personally for life and it probably shouldn’t be a choice except in extreme circumstances as laid out above.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:05 pm to
xiv steps to the plate. Been on quite a slump lately. He's asked the umpire to read the rule book. Umpire informs him he has read the rule book and it contains nothing about his complaint. He's now asked the head official to read "something." And now he's jawing and kicking dirt. Just a pitiful display. Folks we're gonna take a break for our sponsors
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:10 pm to
TL;DR

SCOTUS will shoot this down, and conservatives will win the virtue signaling war since virtue signaling for babies sounds better than virtue signaling for whores.

Republicans win because they know how to play, and this is a textbook Republican move.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Lickitty Split
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:11 pm to
I should have included the language about false accusations of rape resulting in civil penalties and possible jail time. Anyone held capitive would still have their rights until the embroyo is deemed a child. That time would be whatever time that is decided by scientists and others.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:11 pm to
Those Alabamans are so devious, pulling the strings of the political world
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