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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.

Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:53 pm to
Cool. Call the police and have him arrested for petty theft if this is true. Still doesn’t excuse hunting him down in your truck, cornering him and then shooting him in the chest with a shotgun. I do not want to live in a country where bumfrick rednecks get to decide who gets executed for their crimes
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26810 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:55 pm to
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I’m not sure “hunt” is an inappropriate word


If they were actually hunting him they had plenty of opportunities to kill him. Why let him get close when something really bad can happen?

You could also say that Zimmerman had a gun, followed someone and shot him. Those are all factual statements, and they wouldn't paint an accurate picture either.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19156 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:03 pm to
He was a POS, but you can't kill someone unless your life is in danger. You can't go around playing Cop trying to arrest people, especially for just walking into an abandoned/unfinished house. I have no problem with the dudes being arrested and charged for what they did.

However, I do have a major problem with Biden tweeting "A black man should be able to go for a jog." The "jogger" angle is such bullshite and everyone knows it. Just tell it like it is: "Man breaks into house, then gets chased by angry vigilante neighbors who take law into their own hands. Vigilantes are charged with murder." I would be fine with that headline or tweet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:04 pm to
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You could also say that Zimmerman had a gun, followed someone and shot him. Those are all factual statements, and they wouldn't paint an accurate picture either.


Trayvon Martin circled back to confront Zimmerman. Arbery was trying to escape the McMichaels. That’s a pretty big difference.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:06 pm to
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However, I do have a major problem with Biden tweeting "A black man should be able to go for a jog."


I think the defense of the McMichaels is usually more of a knee jerk reaction against the bullshite narrative of “black people should be able to jog” than it is an actual defense of their actions. They were pretty dumb. Criminally so.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:08 pm to
They were utter dumb asses. With that said, I’m guessing guilty on lesser included degrees of homicide than murder and/or guilty on other offenses (agg assault, false imprisonment etc).
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26810 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Trayvon Martin circled back to confront Zimmerman. Arbery was trying to escape the McMichaels. That’s a pretty big difference.



My point was you can make factual statements about an event and still paint a different picture than what actually happened.

I'm not interested in defending anything they did, if people want to go on about rednecks on a hunting trip then whatever. I just looks an awful lot like what the left typically does with these incidents.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:39 pm to
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Call the police and have him arrested for petty theft if this is true. 


I thought they had already called the police and were trying to detain Arbery until the police arrived.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:42 pm to
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trying to detain Arbery until the police arrived.


They had no direct knowledge of a crime that he had committed that would’ve warranted detaining him.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19180 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:57 pm to
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that does not excuse the actions of those that killed him.


You mean the ones the jogger tried to take the gun away from?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 11:14 pm to
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People committing violent felonies don't get to claim self defense when their victim defends itself



That's racist.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124900 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 11:25 pm to
Yes. He tried to take the gun from someone unlawfully detaining him.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5585 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:13 am to
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Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.
Shocker.

He was a POS.

However, that does not excuse the actions of those that killed him. They deserve jail.



Yea, right. You'll be saying the same thing about me if you come steal shite from my backyard.
Posted by Manarchist
Member since Nov 2018
404 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:17 am to
You find every opportunity to excuse bad behavior. I remember you kissing Mike Browns arse before the truth came out.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26416 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:18 am to
The father and son who killed him should be found guilty.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124900 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:20 am to
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You find every opportunity to excuse bad behavior.


I’m not excusing killing someone.
Posted by Manarchist
Member since Nov 2018
404 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:21 am to
You’re quick to malign law enforcement when the facts aren’t all in.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 1:05 am to
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What does that change?
nothing really. He was just to dumb to live, and those 2 guys are going to jail forever because they were dumbasses and didn't understand the citizen arrest law in Georgia when confronting someone who you only have knowledge might have committed a misdemeanor.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 1:07 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124900 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 1:21 am to
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You’re quick to malign law enforcement


Law enforcement isn’t part of this discussion.
Posted by Manarchist
Member since Nov 2018
404 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 1:33 am to
I know you believe that. It’s one of several reasons I don’t take you seriously. You’ve an obvious bias when it comes to law enforcement/law versus anyone else. You wear it on your sleeve and it belies any of your serious commentary on any case with law enforcement.
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