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Acquiring Greenland is not about Greenland - it exposes misconceptions by EU elites

Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:44 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:44 am

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The Greenland issue has exposed two fundamental misconceptions widely held by Europeans elites

1. That the rules based world order ever existed.

No. It was only ever a mirage, American might and money kept Europe afloat

2. It is America causing the “turbulence” and threatening world stability.

No. America is in a Thucydides Trap. The threat to the world is China. U.S. are acting in response.

This article is good

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We are told this is a diplomatic spat, a real estate obsession, a chaotic throwback to 19th-century imperialism. The press treats it as spectacle. Commentators debate whether the administration is serious or simply trolling. Europeans express outrage at the affront to sovereignty. The whole affair is framed as noise: eccentric, embarrassing, ultimately inconsequential.
This framing is comfortable. And almost surely wrong.
The conventional reading of the Greenland saga is diplomatic incompetence in real time. The administration threatens force, gets rebuffed, escalates, gets rebuffed again, then retreats to the language of a purchase. Commentators shake their heads. Europeans express bewilderment.
What looks like flailing is a classic Trump-style negotiation sequence. You open with an outrageous demand precisely so your real demand seems reasonable by comparison.

It goes like this: Signal acquisition. Denmark scoffs. Mention force. Denmark recoils. Insist on force, loudly, repeatedly. Denmark reaches peak indignation. Others come to their side. Then pivot. A purchase offer that eliminates Denmark's entire national debt ($142B) and nearly doubles Greenland's GDP (~$450B)...
And suddenly the question is no longer "how dare you" but "wait, how much?"
The force rhetoric was never the plan. It was the anchor. Denmark is no longer defending sovereignty against an imperial aggressor; Denmark is evaluating a financial proposition. The frame has moved.

And i feel crazy saying this...
The math is not absurd. The deal probably pays for itself within a generation. The minerals alone are worth multiples of the purchase price. Greenland's 57,000 residents become millionaires on paper. Denmark sheds a fiscal dependent and erases its debt. The United States secures the rare earth supply chain for the military of the 2030s.
What is actually underway is a supply chain annexation dressed in the costume of territorial ambition. The target is not an island; it is two geological formations in Southern Greenland—Kvanefjeld and Tanbreez—that contain the heavy rare earth elements without which no advanced weapons system can be built.
Dysprosium. Terbium. Names that mean nothing to the public but everything to the Pentagon. These elements are irreplaceable in the actuators of F-35 fighters, the guidance fins of precision munitions, the sonar arrays of Virginia-class submarines, and the permanent magnets of every electric vehicle motor. China controls over 90% of global processing. The United States controls almost none.
The "purchase" of Greenland is not a land deal. It is an attempt to break a chokehold.

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The European response to all of this has been to invoke international law, sovereignty, and the rules-based order. These invocations are emotionally satisfying. They are also strategically meaningless.
International law functions only among actors who agree to be constrained by it. It assumes a mutual understanding of legitimacy, a shared framework of rules, and an enforcement mechanism capable of compelling compliance. None of these conditions hold. There is no global sovereign. There is no monopoly on force. Agreements endure only until interests diverge.
The United States has decided that securing rare earth supply chains is more important than maintaining the post-war settlement with Europe. The prediction markets have priced this in. The cable sabotage operations have demonstrated it. The tariff announcements have made it explicit.
European leaders can invoke norms. They cannot enforce them. And actors who openly reject the framework—whether by dragging anchors across undersea cables or by demanding territorial concessions under economic duress—gain advantage over those who internalize constraints the other side does not recognize.
This is the asymmetry of the current moment. It is not new. Thucydides identified it twenty-five centuries ago: the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. The innovation of 2026 is the speed at which the mask has slipped.
The Signal and the Noise

The public narrative offers comfort: this is chaos, incompetence, a diplomatic embarrassment that will resolve itself. The operational reality offers none.
The US is annexing a supply chain. Europe is being coerced into alignment. Russia is probing the infrastructure that holds the alliance together. The public is fragmented across information silos that prevent collective response. Prediction markets are pricing outcomes that official discourse still treats as unthinkable.
The statements in the press are not meaningless. But they're rarely decisive. The decisive forces operate quietly, guided not by norms but by leverage, not by law but by geology, not by principle but by the irreducible logic of who controls the inputs for the next generation of weapons.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37521 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:01 am to
This is nothing more than Reality TV. Create some controversy, stoke the flames and then abandon the idea and move on to the next ridiculous subplot.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21448 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:01 am to
The other thing it exposed it that neither Denmark nor Europe can defend the island nor are they serious about defending it because they aren’t serious about their own security. They’ve willingly given up their borders and traditions. They care very little about their heritage either as they’ve imported millions of 3rd world leeches and told their own citizens to pound sand… You cannot depend on governments like that as allies. You certainly can’t depend on them to defend a strategic island.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:04 am to
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I am one of the most staunch Trump supporters out there - I literally went to prison for Trump. And I love Europe. I spent most of my childhood traveling to Europe and learning about Europe. I married a European. I even live in Europe.

And it is this love that makes me so happy that Europeans are getting angry that the United States is humiliating them.

Because Europe deserves to be humiliated. It deserves to be humiliated like your pro-athlete friend does when he decides to retire early, stop working out, and becomes morbidly obese and diabetic. Europe is the continent that birthed the West, and no matter how much I love America, and believe America created the perfect incubator for the spirit of the European — the reality is Europe is where it all started. I can walk down the street here and see buildings that are more than twice as old as my country. The most historic structures and exploits America has to offer are dwarfed by the local lore of your random European town.

But the truth is that this is all in the past. Europe is nothing now. It has chosen to be nothing at least since the end of the Cold War, and arguably decades earlier. It is a continent of vassals who convinced themselves that they weren't because America had enough respect for their prior contributions to never rub it in their face. But Europeans got lazier and weaker over time, addicted to the increasingly undeserved status we offered them globally, and with their degradation gradually convinced themselves, like all self-hating people, that they were in fact better. At some point their weakness stopped being a flaw; indeed, it was what made them superior. And the strength of the country who protected them was eventually framed as its biggest moral failing.

Europeans may protest at this accusation of self-hatred — surely their indignation as we take Greenland from them means they don't disrespect themselves, quite the opposite. But what else can you say about nations who systematically destroy their own industrial base and grid, replace their own people and culture with parasitic foreigners, and castrate their own militaries and economies? You are weak, entirely by your own choices, but that's not what is truly embarrassing; what's pathetic is you don't seem to grasp reality. You actually aren't better than us, and that's provable because you can't compete with us. Indeed it is worse than that: you can't even hurt us. You are so far behind at this point you can't do anything.

Yet Trump - the first American President in 70 years - is finally making you face all of this. Trump is shaking you down, and revealing the bloated, sagging husk of a people and polity you've become. And his assertiveness is making you decide either to own your increasingly irrelevant existence or to hit the gym and become respectable again. He's making you angry — and this is good. You should be angry: you are an insult to your ancestors and your bloodlines. Whether you want to blame us doesn't matter... so long as you do the work to change. You need to get motivated, to start competing in the real world of geopolitics which you formed, rather than in your imaginary world of "good and bad" where since you are obviously good, you always win, and there are never any consequences for terrible decisions.

But to compete in this real world you will have to start slaughtering the sacred cows you've based your recent identity on. A continent filled with migrants who hate you and are draining your coffers, a continent with impossible-to-do-business regulations and without resources can never project power on a global scale. To the extent you can still fix this, you will have to not only band together as nations, but start doing what America is doing: remigration, reindustrialization, and realpolitiking. No more lectures or PR stunts; you need to actually run things competently. You have to throw out the genocidal clowns who want you dead, reclaim your countries, and get serious about governance.

This change of Europe's fortune is important to me — in some ways, strangely, even more important than it happening to America. Losing America means losing my home, but losing Europe means losing THE home. I do not think the world without Europe would be a good world; it certainly would not be a beautiful one.

But if Europe becoming great again requires Europeans to hate America, that is a cost worth paying. I would rather Europe be a rival and have it live, than let it be a vassal and die.

So may you all be galvanized enough to remember your potential and intrinsic capabilities.

May you recall your roots - and prove us wrong.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:07 am to
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