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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What about prior to limbs forming?
You ok with murdering the deformed?
quote:
Prior to consciousness, prior to pain perception, etc.
Is anyone put to sleep for surgery ok to be murdered?
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Take it up with the vast majority of people in a democratic nation, not me.
But you're the one that said it. quote:
I'm giving you a path to fewer abortions. But you prefer virtue signaling.
I'm fine with starting with those limitations, obviously. I'm not an all or nothing type of person.
Also correcting you isn't virtue signaling.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:21 pm to Mike da Tigah
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No they aren’t.
Yes they are.
You can believe an act to be immoral but not want it regulated by the state.
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They are what cause us to create laws in the first place.
Laws are used for the same reasons that religious morality was developed: societal trial and error.
Murder of humans is disruptive to society, so we make it illegal.
Theft of property is disruptive to society, so we make it illegal.
Then you get into fun stuff like adultery, interracial marriage, same sex marriage, etc. They were once illegal, but we realized they weren't disruptive like we were told, so they're not illegal anymore (even though many people still see them as immoral acts). Or we can go in reverse: having sex with children. Wasn't nearly as big of a deal in the past but we have realized the impact this has on children and the later societal effects: both immoral and illegal now.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:22 pm to Azkiger
Sorry, but her college athletics that she worked her whole life for and the job she earned and wanted would be. But F it, right? Her rapist gets her to house his baby! She can start over even though she shouldn’t have to.
Jesus, I was hoping for more than “her life must be shite” if she doesn’t want to have a baby against her will and lose the life she built for herself.
Can she at least have plan b in this no abortion scenario?
Jesus, I was hoping for more than “her life must be shite” if she doesn’t want to have a baby against her will and lose the life she built for herself.
Can she at least have plan b in this no abortion scenario?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:22 pm to Azkiger
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I thought men wanted the women they sleep with to have abortions?
Hey man, stop expecting consistency. Leftist thought requires everyone to accept whatever argument is being made at that very moment.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:22 pm to madamtiger
quote:In about 99% of the abortions, it isn’t against her will. By engaging in voluntary sex, she accepts that pregnancy may result.
I already know what happens to the baby. It’s been beaten to a pulp. I. Asking why there is no mention of a woman whose body has been hijacked against her will. Tough shite I’m getting as the “ compassionate” answer.
quote:Amen
But if you want to mandate pregnancies then we need to come down harder on POS parents
quote:Why? Because children instead of being valued have become disposable.
Parents are already horrible,
quote:Damn good question. Start with heavy penalties on the fathers who are not married to the mother, who are abusive to mother or children.
I want to know how to we are going to get a better generation of kids that are born in these situations.
If men have to fear the consequences of their actions as much as they did when I was young you’ll see the problem dramatically reduced.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:22 pm to imjustafatkid
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this moron doesn't think fetuses are human. Anything he says on this subject should be ignored.
That’s because he thinks it’s only his life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that is at stake here. IOW, his morality.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm to imjustafatkid
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your opinion in your OP was completely based on nothing but emotion.
No it wasn’t. It was “if a woman gets pregnant and it’s unplanned, could there be a better safety net?”
I know people where the woman was on the pill and she got pregnant. Also a devout Catholic couple who had a 4th child that was unplanned because they don’t use protection.
Her question was entirely tactical and not emotional.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm to Knuckle Checker
My bad….agree on this point. 
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm to 14&Counting
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So would force a woman to carry her rapists' baby to term?
Can that woman kill the rapists other 6 year old kid on the soccer field?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:24 pm to hashtag
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I believe you call this "framing"
No I'm giving ranges and explaining how the vast majority of people see the issue.
I should have used better language describing teh perception of the 30-week old fetus, though. You are correct.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:24 pm to Warrior Court
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No it wasn’t. It was “if a woman gets pregnant and it’s unplanned, could there be a better safety net?”
That's an emotion based argument. There is no better safety net.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:25 pm to imjustafatkid
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this moron doesn't think fetuses are human.
At a certain point they are human. Prior to that point, they are not human.
I don't know exactly what that point is. Nobody does as of today. That's why the abortion debate rages on.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:25 pm to Adam Banks
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Can that woman kill the rapists other 6 year old kid on the soccer field?
What are you babbling about?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:25 pm to madamtiger
I’m just curious if you believe in God?
If so, how do you reconcile the choice to abort with God’s plan?
God allowed his own son to be crucified and die.
It’s not all hugs, sunshine and rainbows.
If you don’t believe in God disregard the question or direct me to where you already answered in this thread as I didnt read it all.
If so, how do you reconcile the choice to abort with God’s plan?
God allowed his own son to be crucified and die.
It’s not all hugs, sunshine and rainbows.
If you don’t believe in God disregard the question or direct me to where you already answered in this thread as I didnt read it all.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:25 pm to Adam Banks
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You ok with murdering the deformed?
This is the same bad rhetoric as the "coma" comment.
quote:
Is anyone put to sleep for surgery ok to be murdered?
This is even worse
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:25 pm to madamtiger
I see where you're coming from and I'm not trying to insult but... I think you might actually be a Democrat.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to imjustafatkid
Are you saying they don’t? Are they all,jumping up and down to be daddies? Completely wrong.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At a certain point they are human. Prior to that point, they are not human.
They are human beings from the moment of conception. There is no other reasonable or scientific claim to be made.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to Azkiger
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But you're the one that said it.
Yes, the "political sweet spot" is based on how the public views the issue.
Not SFP
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