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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:58 pm to madamtiger
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:58 pm to madamtiger
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Anyway, I wanted to get my two cents in and I hope it turns into a civilized discussion without bomb throwing.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
I have a lot to say but I don't get into the BS name calling.
You’re a whore :)
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:02 pm to madamtiger
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But since it is, why not carve out an exception always for rape or incest?
Half of the states that have abortion bans already do.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:03 pm to gaetti15
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Only if you consider socio-political issues as not having any correlation with personal/moral/religious development.
You can consider abortion immoral and still desire a different political policy
You can think that people are going to hell who have an abortion with the day after pill and still think the law should permit abortions until 12 weeks, thinking anyone who does get one is going to hell.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:03 pm to madamtiger
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Most of the people that comment on here are men and remember, the men in this situation don't have any of this burden
I’m always surprised that most pro-life supporters don’t get this. The overwhelming load of parenthood is born by the woman, even in the best case scenarios.
Thanks for bringing your perspective to this male-dominated board. They’re going to shout you down and call you names. But I appreciate it.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:04 pm to gaetti15
Made it 15 seconds in and already seeing comically idiotic errors.
Idiots do smile a lot, though.
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It’s pretty straightforward: if global relativism is true, then there is at least one absolute truth, and so global relativism contradicts itself. We simply have to ask, “Is it absolutely true that there is no absolute truth?” and smile.
Idiots do smile a lot, though.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:04 pm to Adam Banks
I read a lot of your posts so I’m understand your passion for the subject. I’m saying as a mother, it would be devastating to have to tell her that her life that she built is over. No college athletics, no job. I just wish you guys could show some sort of compassion, albeit it’s just a message board, for someone that would have to go through this. It’s something a man can can throw hard opinions at but it could never happen to you. If your answer is tough shite, then so be it. Call me a commie and we can be done.
But I truly wanted to hear some new thoughts just coming from a woman, who votes Republican, but wants to see her party show some solutions besides “ tough shite” to girls who are just as innocent as the pregnancies you want them to carry against their will.
But I truly wanted to hear some new thoughts just coming from a woman, who votes Republican, but wants to see her party show some solutions besides “ tough shite” to girls who are just as innocent as the pregnancies you want them to carry against their will.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:05 pm to redneck hippie
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The overwhelming load of parenthood is born by the woman, even in the best case scenarios.
Thanks for bringing your perspective to this male-dominated board.
During an abortion, the overwhelming load of anguish and pain is inflicted on the baby, not the woman.
How's that for perspective?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:07 pm to madamtiger
erections have consequences and what about the guy who doesn't want to pay the bills?
Should he be able to demand an abortion?
You women are a mess.
Should he be able to demand an abortion?
You women are a mess.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:07 pm to madamtiger
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But I truly wanted to hear some new thoughts just coming from a woman, who votes Republican, but wants to see her party show some solutions besides “ tough shite” to girls who are just as innocent as the pregnancies you want them to carry against their will.
I appreciate your attempt to start a discussion. This is an extreme audience that doesn’t represent…anything, really.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:07 pm to madamtiger
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I’m saying as a mother, it would be devastating to have to tell her that her life that she built is over. No college athletics, no job.
This is just false.
Her life wouldn't be over. It'd certainly impede college athletics, but not a job.
Someone's life would objectively be over, though. Why aren't you worried about their actual life?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:09 pm to Azkiger
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During an abortion, the overwhelming load of anguish and pain is inflicted on the baby, not the woman.
Well, the man has spoken for the woman and the baby so it must be true.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:11 pm to madamtiger
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No college athletics,
Ok. Doubt they would pull her scholarship but yes that would suck.
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no job
There are laws regarding this.
She won’t lose her job because she is pregnant.
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I just wish you guys could show some sort of compassion
Rape is awful and terrible.
Killing a baby is awful and terrible also.
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It’s something a man can can throw hard opinions at but it could never happen to you.
I have kids
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“ tough shite” to girls
There are a wealth of families looking to adopt.
This isn’t tough shite.
This is about protecting life.
Im not ok with murder based on real estate as a means to deal with trauma.
No one thinks would be ok with a rape victim murdering the rapists child on a soccer field.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:11 pm to Azkiger
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This is just false.
Her life wouldn't be over. It'd certainly impede college athletics, but not a job.
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This is just false.
Her life wouldn't be over. It'd certainly impede college athletics, but not a job.
Pregnancy and having kids is one of, if not the, biggest factors in the wage gap for women.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:11 pm to Azkiger
I already know what happens to the baby. It’s been beaten to a pulp. I. Asking why there is no mention of a woman whose body has been hijacked against her will. Tough shite I’m getting as the “ compassionate” answer.
Never said abort them. Never said more money. But if you want to mandate pregnancies then we need to come down harder on POS parents. You can not agree but don’t wonder why the kids coming up act the way they do. Parents are already horrible, now we are going to add more kids to the equation. I want to know how to we are going to get a better generation of kids that are born in these situations.
Never said abort them. Never said more money. But if you want to mandate pregnancies then we need to come down harder on POS parents. You can not agree but don’t wonder why the kids coming up act the way they do. Parents are already horrible, now we are going to add more kids to the equation. I want to know how to we are going to get a better generation of kids that are born in these situations.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:12 pm to Warrior Court
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Well, the man has spoken for the woman and the baby so it must be true.
Neuroscience*
Objectively speaking, being ripped apart limb by limp then having your skull crushed is more painful than having shoved up your vagina.
It's not even close.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:13 pm to redneck hippie
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I’m always surprised that most pro-life supporters don’t get this. The overwhelming load of parenthood is born by the woman, even in the best case scenarios.
Thanks for bringing your perspective to this male-dominated board. They’re going to shout you down and call you names. But I appreciate it.
There are principled people on both sides of the debate, The absolutist takes on here don't reflect where the country is generally on the issue.
SCOTUS made the right decision but I think everyone underestimated the impact on this election. It might be enough for a horrible candidate like Harris to pull it off.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You can consider abortion immoral and still desire a different political policy
Not if you believe in anything moral that is immovable you can’t. That is a 100% cop out, and I don’t believe people who say it either. I don’t believe they are true to their own convictions if so easily compromised. And to argue that one can divorce their morals from their politics is laughable considering the immoral morals being shoved down America’s throats by leftists as of late especially, using politics to facilitate it as well as schools, the media, and every other means at their disposal.
Murder and theft is immoral. We have laws to prevent it and prosecute it as well. Should we actually not push political officials like mayors, legislators, and the like to be tough on moral crime? Should crime even be an item of discussion when discussing mayoral races? Clearly it should, so morality will undoubtedly be discussed in political discussions as our morals are what drive everything we do and really believe in.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:13 pm to madamtiger
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Calling women whores and sluts that need their consequences...should have kept their legs closed is usually not equally thrown out about the man that also helped create the pregnancy. BOTH need to be discussed.
These things are not equivalent. Men are already held accountable for their actions by law through paternity courts. Women aren't even required to provide proof who the actual father is in most cases, and the man has no say in whatever "choice" the woman makes. There is a gross discrepancy in how this is handled.
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Start talking about what new can do to support women who have an unplanned pregnancy.
There are more than enough resources available now. There is absolutely no need for any other assistance.
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We ended up breaking up and he went to work for a family friend to make cash and couldn't be compelled to pay child support. I won't go too deep into this right away, but it happens so much more than you think. Men walk away all the time.
This should happen more often. Women like you need to be forced to face their bad decisions if hook up culture is going to be defeated.
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Pumping more unwanted kids into an overloaded system
Stopped reading your third point here. You are wrong that out system is overloaded.
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I cannot imagine her being raped and impregnated and forced to make a baby with her rapist. She would lose her entire life right now. Its not merely an "inconvenience." Its life changing and can screw you up for life.
1. No this would not screw her life up.
2. I fully support the death penalty for rapists. Not for the baby. You are looking at this from a flawed perspective.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:13 pm to madamtiger
WOW
You claim to be a Republican and sound like a Nazi Leftist
You claim to be a Republican and sound like a Nazi Leftist
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 2:15 pm
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