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re: Aborting Down syndrome babies
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:07 am to Snipe
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:07 am to Snipe
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I personally feel that abortion is a sickening personal decision, but at least Iceland is doing it with some purpose, unlike the disgusting scum in the U.S. who just wanted to smash and meh, I ain't got no time for dealing with babies.
Combining abortion and eugenics is a scary path
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:16 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Those of who disprove of this then need to step-up and provide the social services the parents and the children need when they get older. Downs Syndrome people often have heart problems and other illness related to that can be very expensive and they often need special schooling and other services and if the parents die before them they often need social services to help them live as adults. So you had better be able to pay their bills when their parents aren't able. And that would mean taxes, but you don't like raising taxes.
A large portion of our population depends on government services to live. So, you want to abort the future welfare recipients? Or anyone with a high likelyhood of medical issues?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:17 am to Pettifogger
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Combining abortion and eugenics is a scary path
In my opinion, so is combining abortion and someone's eventual burden on others/society as a whole based on financial considerations.
I get the feeling that some of these people would gleefully go down that path.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:22 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:We have generations of people living on social support. Should the govt promote their abortion? Statistics show with a pretty great degree of certainty that a child born out of wedlock to a teenage mother who was also born to a non wed teenager will probably receive some form of govt assistance from first diaper til last shovel of dirt.
So you had better be able to pay their bills when their parents aren't able. And that would mean taxes, but you don't like raising taxes.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:24 am to SSpaniel
quote:You bet it is scary. I never really thought anyone would stoop to the level of putting Downs Syndrome babies in the crosshairs as it relates to public policy.
In my opinion, so is combining abortion and someone's eventual burden on others/society as a whole based on financial considerations.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:26 am to tigerfoot
What if they discover an "alcoholic gene" or a "smoking cigarette gene" or an "eats too much and gets fat" gene? Can we abort people with those, so that they won't be so expensive to care for when they get cirrhosis or the liver or lung cancer or diabetes? Heck.. is there a gene for diabetes? Because that ain't cheap....
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:27 am to tigerfoot
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I never really thought anyone would stoop to the level of putting Downs Syndrome babies in the crosshairs as it relates to public policy.
And I would venture to guess that putting Downs Syndrome babies in the crosshairs would only be the beginning...
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:56 am to Brazos
Woof... The retards have come out in full force in this thread.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:39 am to cssamerican
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Listen to yourself! You’re justifying what you believe to be murder,
Wrong guy. I don't think aborting a fetus is murder at all and definitely not if they're severely mentally disabled.
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Please, don’t tell me it’s a tough moral decision when your morality is based off of what is convenient for you.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It's more than an inconvenience it's life-altering and destroys many people's families and the child itself has a very hard life. You keep focusing on the issue as if it's just about like some teenager wanting to jump off a baby because they want to go party but this is much bigger than that and the child suffers greatly.
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Don’t give me it’s inconvenient for the child bullshite either. I’ve never heard of a successful murder defense that said, the 1 month old was inconvenience by life, so I did them a favor by removing the burden of living.
Well I haven't heard of an abortion that needed to have a murder defense. You're kind of all over the place here
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:32 pm to Brazos
Does the blood test determine the severity of the disability?
Two of my cousins have downs syndrome. They are high functioning so they both have jobs, enjoy sports and enjoy living life. On the other hand I knew a man in his 30's with the mental capacity of a 2 year old who could not feed himself or control his bowels. He basically stayed in a giant play pen and watched cartoons all day until he died. Is that a life worth living?
Two of my cousins have downs syndrome. They are high functioning so they both have jobs, enjoy sports and enjoy living life. On the other hand I knew a man in his 30's with the mental capacity of a 2 year old who could not feed himself or control his bowels. He basically stayed in a giant play pen and watched cartoons all day until he died. Is that a life worth living?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:36 pm to cssamerican
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So, it’s pretty easy when you think about it.
No, it’s really not no matter how you look at it. I would hate to be in that position and I hope and pray that’s a decision I’ll never have to make. I’m pro-life, but I have to be honest and say that I’d definitely consider aborting, and if I had to put odds on it, I’d sit odds of aborting around 75%. I think the final decision would be left to my wife and would fully support the decision either way.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Is that a life worth living?
I keep seeing people ask this question and it’s amazes me that they cannot see the horror of what that question entails. Do you really want to live in a soceity where others have the power to decide if your life is worth living?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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I keep seeing people ask this question and it’s amazes me that they cannot see the horror of what that question entails. Do you really want to live in a soceity where others have the power to decide if your life is worth living?
I'm not speaking of the state making the decision.I dont believe in that at all. On the other hand do you want to live in a society where you are forced to bring a child into the world that is destined only to be a piss and shite factory or be in tremendous pain for their short life? Do I like that anyone can abort a child for any reason? No. But there are times when quality of life and viability of the child are so bleak that I can see abortion as a rational choice by the parents.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:52 pm to ThuperThumpin
What I don’t want is a society where whether or not someone gets to live is determined by how much of a “burden” they are on that society. History has shown us already where that leads.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:53 pm to Darth_Vader
We need to remember that we are just animals. Sometimes the herd has to be culled
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:59 pm to Caplewood
What happens when they decide you should be culled?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:00 pm to Damone
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Progressives are down with killing any baby, whether or not it has Downs.
Progressives are down with killing Caucasian babies, the more aborted the better, but they love them some illegal Mexican babies.
there humanist crusade to eradicate "whiteness"
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:03 pm to Darth_Vader
I have superior Northern European genes and an above average iq, I think I’ll be safe
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:08 pm to Caplewood
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I have superior Northern European genes and an above average iq, I think I’ll be safe
You poor dumb fool.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:11 pm to Darth_Vader
Is the sky falling darth? The land of my ancestors is the one practicing this, we don’t let emotion get in the way of what’s right in the long run. Been like that for around 1300 years
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