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Aborting Down syndrome babies
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:28 pm
I was wondering if someone can shed some light on this topic I heard on the Sean Hannity show. I caught the tail end of it so I didn't get to hear exactly what's going on with this. All I heard was there are some that feel that people with downs are a tax on society and feel that they should be aborted. Is this really happening frequently? How is this any different than Hitler trying to create a master race?
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:30 pm to Brazos
Yes it’s happening and it’s sickening. I beleive it was Iceland recently that made headlines as beingvthr first country in the world to declare itself Down Syndrome “Free”.
ETA: here it is...
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ETA: here it is...
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Iceland has become the first nation to boast of total destruction of in-utero Down syndrome children. Obstetrician-gynecologist Peter McParland praised the move, according to Life Site. "In Iceland," the doctor said, "every single baby—100 percent of all those diagnosed with Down syndrome—are aborted," he said, adding, "There hasn't been a baby with Down syndrome born in Iceland in the past five years."
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This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:31 pm to Brazos
We as humans take care of our defective young. (Not being mean just speaking very bluntly)
Animals in the wild leave their defective young to die.
So here is the real question. Are we no different than animals in the wild, or are we above them.
Animals in the wild leave their defective young to die.
So here is the real question. Are we no different than animals in the wild, or are we above them.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:31 pm to Brazos
Progressives are down with killing any baby, whether or not it has Downs.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:32 pm to Brazos
I struggle with this one. I'm pro life but often wonder if quality of life should come into the equation.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:33 pm to russellvillehog
Who's to say these babies are defective? People with downs are some of the kindest and most gentle people I have ever met in my life. It's sickening and barbaric.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:33 pm to Brazos
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:34 pm to Brazos
Some people use birth defects as a justification for abortion
In China they'll abort a baby for it being female. I think the problem got so bad that China had to prevent gender screening. Not sure if that's still a thing there.
In China they'll abort a baby for it being female. I think the problem got so bad that China had to prevent gender screening. Not sure if that's still a thing there.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:34 pm to upgrayedd
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struggle with this one. I'm pro life but often wonder if quality of life should come into the equation
Ever met someone with Down Syndrome? I ask because if you had, you’d be equally disgusted as I am that’s anyone would abort a baby just for having Downs.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:34 pm to Brazos
dims love aborting totally healthy babies why would they think twice about aborting others?
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:35 pm to Darth_Vader
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Ever met someone with Down Syndrome? I ask because if you had, you’d be equally disgusted as I am that’s anyone would abort a baby just for having Downs.
Yes.
Like I said, I struggle with this topic.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:36 pm to upgrayedd
Quality of life for the parents you mean? A person with downs knows no different so it basically boils down to the parents not wanting to "deal with it".
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:36 pm to Brazos
These two things are true:
a. Medical testing can detect a wide range of mental/physical defects in the 1st trimester.
b. Special needs kids are a huge financial burden on taxpayers.
People can come to their own conclusions about policy after accepting these 2 truths.
Uh, because it has nothing to do with race.
a. Medical testing can detect a wide range of mental/physical defects in the 1st trimester.
b. Special needs kids are a huge financial burden on taxpayers.
People can come to their own conclusions about policy after accepting these 2 truths.
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How is this any different than Hitler trying to create a master race?
Uh, because it has nothing to do with race.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:39 pm to upgrayedd
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Yes.
Like I said, I struggle with this topic.
How can it’s be a struggle? My wife has a cousin that has Downs. The girl is 7 and one of the most kind hearted, joyful, happy child that I’ve ever met. The idea that the world would be better off if she’d have never been born is beyond reprehensible. It’s pure evil.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:40 pm to russellvillehog
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We as humans take care of our defective young. (Not being mean just speaking very bluntly)
That's not always been true from a historical perspective. That's not even true now in all cultures. In Sparta, children with birth defects were left to die to try and keep the gene pool strong.
Eugenics is just science enabling society to pick and choose what the next generation looks like.
We can argue about the morality of it from a modern perspective, from a religious perspective, etc, but we cannot pretend like this is a truly alien practice for human kind.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:40 pm to Brazos
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Quality of life for the parents you mean? A person with downs knows no different so it basically boils down to the parents not wanting to "deal with it".
Not necessarily. When the parents are dead, these people will still require care. If they don't have anyone to help care for them, they may end up in some not so good circumstances.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:41 pm to Zach
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Uh, because it has nothing to do with race.
Right. But people with certain afflictions were killed during the holocaust specifically for that reason.
If you want to play your little cute semantics game with the topic of genocide by my guest.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:42 pm to Brazos
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Who's to say these babies are defective? People with downs are some of the kindest and most gentle people I have ever met in my life. It's sickening and barbaric.
I agree in general but I also see that chances are they will never have a gf/bf, never be able to get married, never, have a job/career, etc. In short, they can’t live a full life.
Would you be happy if you had been an outcast your entire life?
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:42 pm to Darth_Vader
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How can it’s be a struggle? My wife has a cousin that has Downs. The girl is 7 and one of the most kind hearted, joyful, happy child that I’ve ever met. The idea that the world would be better off if she’d have never been born is beyond reprehensible. It’s pure evil.
I get what you're saying. It's just something I don't have a firm opinion on yet.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:43 pm to upgrayedd
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Not necessarily. When the parents are dead, these people will still require care. If they don't have anyone to help care for them, they may end up in some not so good circumstances.
You’re not the first to use this argument. Mr. Gobbles thought the same thing.
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