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Jjdoc
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A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
Technology is already in use. In Sacramento, they have a system in use that detects a shot fired. It can tell you what caliber. It can tell you exactly where it came from.

Now we have gear that will point a sniper out after detection and pinpoint you with a laser.


So how do you police this situation? Have these set up, if a shot is fired, the lasers will pinpoint the shooter immediately. Then a sniper can take them out.




ABearsFanNMS
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
Do you realize how many snipers you would need to cover a metro area?


iamAG
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
Bad stuff happens man. We need to learn from it in realistic ways and hope the next attack is shortened.


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upgrayedd
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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Have these set up, if a shot is fired, the lasers will pinpoint the shooter immediately. Then a sniper can take them out.

Sounds awesome. I'll be happy to know that I'll be shot by a magic sniper if I shoot a criminal trying to stab me.


The_Duke
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
How does this not fall under government expansion and government control?


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CarrolltonTiger
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Once they know where he is it is probably quicker to send the swat team to the location as to get a sniper duel going in a metropolitan area.



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LSURussian
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
Baton Rouge has had a gunshot detecting and locating system in the higher crime areas for several years.

Two problems prevent the technology from working as advertised: 1) Echoes off of buildings and trees distort the shots location, and, 2) the bad guys can see the sensors on the poles and they use them for target practice.

Keeping the sensors in working order has been a challenge....


Jjdoc
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
This concert isnt a metro area


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Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
Im speaking about events like this.


MrCarton
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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So how do you police this situation? Have these set up, if a shot is fired, the lasers will pinpoint the shooter immediately. Then a sniper can take them out.




They work ok, but in this case, they had the report that pinpointed at least one shooter in his exact room. given the muzzle flash and the room number, a sniper would have had just as much, if not more info that the boomerang can give him.

Problem 2: having sniper teams in the right place, and the right time, with the right equipment, training, and authority to do anything about it.
This post was edited on 10/2 at 10:19 pm


MrCarton
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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Baton Rouge has had a gunshot detecting and locating system in the higher crime areas for several years.

Two problems prevent the technology from working as advertised: 1) Echoes off of buildings and trees distort the shots location, and, 2) the bad guys can see the sensors on the poles and they use them for target practice.

Keeping the sensors in working order has been a challenge....



Exactly. Coalition used them extensively in Iraq, to little effect.


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Jjdoc
Columbia Fan
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
These systems have been improved.


But again... im speaking about large events like this.


upgrayedd
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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Im speaking about events like this.

So the magic laser will be able to decide friend from foe. Gotcha.


MrCarton
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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But again... im speaking about large events like this.




I question whether or not most PDs can successfully implement and maintain these systems. I also question their ability to field the human talent required to capitalize on it.


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Jjdoc
Columbia Fan
Cali
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
So you dont think a sniper could have stopped this guy within 72 minutes


MrCarton
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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So you dont think a sniper could have stopped this guy within 72 minutes



you tell me. They had his room number and the muzzle flash from the room pinpointing his location to within, what, 10 meters? Does the LVPD have sniper teams? If so, then what stopped them from "sniping" him yesterday, and why would a boomerang system have changed the outcome?


Technology isn't the biggest piece of this puzzle. It's 90% about managing your people and having the tactical skills to capitalize on it.


Jjdoc
Columbia Fan
Cali
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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the magic laser will be able to decide friend from foe. Gotcha.


No, but you are not defending yourself with an automatic weapon.


Come on... some common sense needed in this.


Jjdoc
Columbia Fan
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
11732 posts

re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
It wouldnt bother me if it was hired it oit for events like this


upgrayedd
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re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
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No, but you are not defending yourself with an automatic weapon.

What?
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Come on... some common sense needed in this.


Uhh...


Jjdoc
Columbia Fan
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
11732 posts

re: A needed help to law enforcement... laser spotter
You stated it would not be able to tell if you were defending yourself from somebody trying to stab you.


Thats true... but you wouldnt be using an automatic weapon from the 32nd floor against an attacker in a crowd of 30k people...

Common sense.


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