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re: A man was sentenced to 60 days in jail for saying this….

Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Old enough to remember when he was the president. What is your point?

What was he charged with prior to his pardon?


Obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of congress. Again, what is your point.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89779 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:23 pm to
You cant question mrna shots, you cant question why the fbi was part of the insurrection, and you cant question what our government's true plan is with Ukraine and why they care more about ukraine's border than the US border.

Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6071 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:23 pm to
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quote:
Can't imagine


Anyone having a bigger pussy than you.




They don't call him PowerBottom for nothing
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:24 pm to
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“ CLAIM: Former President Donald Trump signed an order to deploy 20,000 National Guard troops before his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but was stopped by the House sergeant at arms, at the behest of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting. Speaker Pelosi does not control National Guard troops.”

LINK

Got something more recent? I’m not above looking at other facts, as long as they’re factual and not mythological.



He issued no such order because Pelosi and the mayor of DC turned it down. They have the phone records of this discussion. Pelosi cannot control the National Guard but she could have excepted them from Trump. She did not want them there. They had this all planned and the NG would have screwed it up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of congress.

Are you arguing that J6 protesters could be impeached by Congress?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Are you arguing that J6 protesters could be impeached by Congress?




What?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:28 pm to
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What?

You cited Nixon's impeachment, right?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22061 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Trump could have pardoned them but didn't want to be impeached. He chose himself over people who believed his lies.



Most of them were arrested after he was out of office.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:30 pm to
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What?

You cited Nixon's impeachment, right?



You asked what Nixon was charged with prior to impeachment. I answered.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:31 pm to
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And trump set every one of those poor people up for prison.


Ah. So when he said to protest peacefully that was one of those infamous code words we keep hearing about?
Posted by IamtheWalrus77
Member since Sep 2023
49 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:35 pm to
It doesn’t matter whether it was peaceful. There was agent provocateurs there to entrap people into going inside the building
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:35 pm to
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You asked what Nixon was charged with prior to impeachment. I answered.

"Charged with" was a criminal question (to keep it logically connected to this discussion), specifically if you can be pardoned prior to being criminally charged.

IF the protesters can't be impeached, then referencing Nixon's impeachment is not a logical diversion, correct?

So, I'll ask more clearly (since you need the help): what criminal charges were filed against Nixon prior to his pardon?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:37 pm to
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There was agent provocateurs there to entrap people into going inside the building

What about the people like Owen Shroyer who also did this?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:39 pm to
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Owen Shroyer is going to jail for 60 days


Should have been longer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Should have been longer.

That's pretty fascist
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157788 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:41 pm to
BamaPOS is a commie.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:47 pm to
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So, I'll ask more clearly (since you need the help): what criminal charges were filed against Nixon prior to his pardon?


The House Judiciary Committee approved three articles of impeachment for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of congress. He was not "criminally charged". If your point is that Trump could have pardoned prior to criminal charges and are trying to use the Nixon situation as a example all I can do is laugh. Apples to oranges. First, he would have had to of known there would be charges. Second, he would have had to of known who would be charged.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:51 pm to
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Should have been longer.

That's pretty fascist


That is because it is a fascist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476659 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:51 pm to
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The House Judiciary Committee approved three articles of impeachment f

That's not a criminal charge.

Can the J6 defendants be impeached? No, so that's irrelevant.

quote:

He was not "criminally charged".

Exactly. And he was pardoned prior to being criminally charged.

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First, he would have had to of known there would be charges.

How did Nixon know there would be charges? None had been filed.

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Second, he would have had to of known who would be charged.

That's Trump's problem.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29906 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:54 pm to
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I have no more outrage to give. All I can do it vote and take care of my family, fiends and people that genuinely need a helping hand.



I am always surfing the back and forth on unplugging, and pushing my rage further into psychosis.

I wanna unplug if not for the fact that THAT IS THE REASON we are in this mess to begin with. It's our apathy and unplugging-ness and lack of action that has just allowed these bastards to run roughshod on our entire system and Constitution.

Sure, what am I doing other than staying upset? Nothing. Of course, like the rest of us. but if enough people stay mad and get madder, maybe we WILL act, collectively. that is my dream.

nothing other than scary stuff happening is going to unseat the types of powers that run our country.
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