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A country with some of the strictest gun laws in the world just had a mass shooting

Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179497 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:27 am
Yes, I am making this political. If you want to discuss the incident, there is a thread on the OT





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Australia has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, shaped mainly by reforms after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. Gun ownership is legal, but it is heavily regulated and treated as a privilege, not a right.

Here’s a clear overview:

1. No constitutional right to own guns

Australia does not have a “right to bear arms.”

Firearm ownership is regulated by state and territory laws, coordinated nationally.

2. You must have a genuine reason

To own a gun, you must show a legitimate purpose, such as:

Hunting or pest control

Farming / primary production

Sport or target shooting

Occupational use (e.g., security, animal control)

Self-defence is not an acceptable reason for owning a firearm.

3. Strict licensing system

To get a gun licence, applicants must:

Be at least 18 years old (or junior permits under supervision)

Pass background checks (criminal history, domestic violence, mental health concerns)

Complete a firearms safety course

Demonstrate a genuine need

Observe a mandatory waiting period (usually ~28 days)

Licences are issued for specific categories of firearms, not blanket ownership.

4. Firearm categories (simplified)

Category A:

Rimfire rifles (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump or semi-auto)

Category B:

Bolt-action and lever-action centerfire rifles

Category C:

Semi-automatic rimfire rifles, some shotguns (restricted, mainly for farmers)

Category D:

Semi-automatic centerfire rifles, high-capacity firearms (generally prohibited for civilians)

Category H:

Handguns (strictly for sport shooting, with limits on caliber and magazine size)

5. Registration and storage

Every firearm must be registered

Owners must store guns:

In a locked safe

With ammunition stored separately

Police can conduct compliance checks

6. Buyback and bans

After 1996, Australia banned many semi-automatic firearms

Over 650,000 guns were bought back and destroyed

Subsequent amnesties allow people to surrender illegal guns without penalty

7. Carrying firearms

Open carry and concealed carry are illegal

Firearms may only be transported for approved purposes (e.g., going to a range), unloaded and secured

8. Outcomes

No mass shooting on the scale of Port Arthur since 1996

Large reductions in firearm homicide and suicide rates

Gun ownership still exists but is far lower and more regulated than in countries like the U.S.

In short:

Australia allows gun ownership, but only with strong justification, licensing, registration, and strict controls—and guns are never for personal self-defence.




Not allowed to own guns for self-defense = standing by while the terrorist Australia imported murder you and your family


Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32337 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:28 am to
Blame the shooter. Not the tool. Our resident libs don’t have the mental fortitude to understand this. They don’t understand personal accountability
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80031 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:32 am to
They also put their citizens in camps for tweeting the wrong things and going for a walk during a pandemic.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9877 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:33 am to
They just didn’t do authoritarian right. Wait until AOC and Tim Walz get a chance
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
681 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:33 am to
Australians voted themselves into this mess

They won't be able to vote themselves out of it, tho.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:34 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12083 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:33 am to
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Not allowed to own guns for self-defense = standing by while the terrorist Australia imported murder you and your family


All part of the plan- just like what’s happening Europe and Canada. All over the Western world, populations are disarmed and their countries are being flooded with people who use violence as a way of life.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179497 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Blame the shooter. Not the tool.



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Based on data from the CDC and FBI for 2023, if Black Americans were excluded from United States gun violence statistics, firearm-related homicides would drop by approximately 59%. While Black Americans comprise roughly 14% of the U.S. population, they are disproportionately impacted by gun violence.

The following breakdown provides context for gun violence in the U.S. when excluding suicides:
Impact on Gun Homicide and Victimization

Total Homicides: In 2023, there were 17,926 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.. Black Americans accounted for 10,563 of these victims, or roughly 59%.

Victimization Rates: Black Americans are over 10 to 12 times more likely than White Americans to be victims of gun homicide. For young Black males (ages 15–34), who represent only 2% of the total population, they account for 36% of all firearm homicide fatalities.

Inter-racial Homicide Trends: FBI data indicates that homicide is most often intraracial (within the same racial group). In 2019, approximately 89% of Black homicide victims were killed by Black offenders, and 79% of White victims were killed by White offenders.

Gun Violence vs. Suicide Patterns

The composition of gun-related deaths differs significantly by race:

Black Population: Roughly 82% of gun-related deaths are homicides, while only 14% are suicides.

White Population: Conversely, 77% of gun-related deaths are suicides, and less than 20% are homicides.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4161 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:34 am to
not possible, has to be mistaken report.... I used to work for an Aussie firm where they routinely berated me for the "evils of guns in America" and how we should follow their lead of banning and confiscation. I simply laughed and told them to piss off


This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:36 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17541 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:35 am to
Honestly don’t care.

Reap what ye sows.
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
79 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:48 am to
Its also illegal to enter the US illegally yet here we are. Doesn't really matter what the law says if the people in charge only selectively enforce it, if at all.

Just imagine what the "favored groups" over there are allowed to get away with.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9877 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:48 am to
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They won't be able to vote themselves out of it, tho

Or shoot themselves out of it either
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179497 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Its also illegal to enter the US illegally yet here we are. Doesn't really matter what the law says if the people in charge only selectively enforce it, if at all.


I get where you are going, but at least if the citizens were armed, they would have a chance to fight back and defend themselves.

Mass shootings in the US, like at Brown yesterday, are usually gun-free zones. All of Australia is a gun-free zone.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38677 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:06 am to
Ha ha. “Self defense “ is not a legitimate reason to be armed. That delusional crap will never fly as long as criminals are allowed by the State to prey on the unarmed.

I think that the way things are going, decorating one’s yard/home with traditional Christmas ornaments will become an impetus for attack. Has to happen sooner or later. I doubt one sees any Christmas decorations in former Christian communities that are now majority Muslim.

We can run but we can’t hide. It’s coming.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84450 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Blame the shooter. Not the tool. Our resident libs don’t have the mental fortitude to understand this. They don’t understand personal accountability
That and they love the Aloha Snackbars of the world.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2573 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:09 am to
Operation: CHAOS
Posted by Avi
Member since Apr 2009
152 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:09 am to
Looks like the attack was another peace loving religious cultural exchange.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:10 am to
How do they know Muslims are shooting off those fireworks?

ETA: Looks like there were planned fireworks across Sydney. LINK
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5879 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:30 am to
And of course Charles is a feckless cuck in his response. And others with their whataboutisms about mosques being attacked.
BBC Article
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84450 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Australians voted themselves into this mess

They won't be able to vote themselves out of it, tho.
And no way to shoot their way out of it.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4639 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:35 am to
The folks who want guns banned should reference what happened during Prohibition and that how the actions of it resulted in its repeal.

Banning stuff only keeps it from those who already obey laws
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