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87k agents is nearly 28 per county in the US

Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:27 am
Around 3,100 counties and includes the Louisiana parishes.

You think these vermin won’t go around nickel and diming folks? Wrong

Disgusting
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46041 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:29 am to
We have to trust the illegitimate regime....these 87k brave IRA agents are going to ensure these mega donors.....err, huge corporations pay their fair share.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:31 am to
Yep, and an average of 1740 per state!

This is flat out absurd and stupid....power grabs are now a daily event and in plain sight.

It will not end nicely.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72937 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:31 am to
This is going to be a fun decade.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:33 am to
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Around 3,100 counties and includes the Louisiana parishes.
Meanwhile they've got black people hiding under their beds, afraid of the KKK - who averages 1.5 members per county, and who hasn't killed anyone since the Clinton admin or earlier.

ETA: Well, they haven't killed anyone outside their group. They killed one of their women in Sun or Bush like 15 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:31 am to
you were conned.

1. they are retiring 30000 people. replace them ??
and the money for new staff until 2031.
2. gop cut the staff of auditors. so we need to get that up to normal.
3. most of the new hires are not auditor agents. they will be clerks and secretaries and people who answer the phone.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 11:33 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73569 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:38 am to
quote:


1. they are retiring 30000 people


Please provide proof
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:39 am to
quote:

1. they are retiring 30000 people. replace them ??
and the money for new staff until 2031.
2. gop cut the staff of auditors. so we need to get that up to normal.
3. most of the new hires are not auditor agents. they will be clerks and secretaries and people who answer the phone.

Stop re-posting this. None of it is true.

You don't need extra money to hire for retiring workers.

Post the link where the IRS has made public the mix of jobs the 75% increase in budget is going for.

Didn't Dems themselves declare the money was for dramatically increasing tax/penalty revenue? Are you arguing that it'll be a bunch of clerks and secretaries brining that incremental revenue in?
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6697 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:47 am to
quote:

you were conned.

1. they are retiring 30000 people. replace them ??
and the money for new staff until 2031.
2. gop cut the staff of auditors. so we need to get that up to normal.
3. most of the new hires are not auditor agents. they will be clerks and secretaries and people who answer the phone.



Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:50 am to
quote:

gop cut the staff of auditors. so we need to get that up to normal.


No the frick we don’t you idiot !
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:56 am to
we are letting cheats skate because gop underfunded the auditors.
this added staff will result in billions into us treasury from millionaire cheats.
you re not proposing to let billionaires STEAL from taxpayers are you?
Posted by MilwaukeeKosherDills
Member since Aug 2021
372 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:01 pm to
The funding in the bill is enough to hire 87,000 new employees over 10 years.

Currently there are 78,000 IRS employees. About 50% of those are expected to retire over the next five years. Most of the new hires would be replacements and back office staff, not field agents.

In all, the IRS might net roughly 20,000 to 30,000 more employees from the new funding, enough to restore the tax-collecting agency’s staff to where it was roughly a decade ago. It had been systematically underfunded from 2010. There had been a 31% reduction in enforcement funding.

I'm all for catching tax cheats. Especially the big time ones with accounts in Panama and other tax havens. If that happens the tax burden on honest citizens will be decreased.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1310 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

we are letting cheats skate because gop underfunded the auditors. this added staff will result in billions into us treasury from millionaire cheats. you re not proposing to let billionaires STEAL from taxpayers are you?


How do they cheat exactly? Using the tax code as written by Congress? Or can you give some examples.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18067 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

we are letting cheats skate because gop underfunded the auditors. this added staff will result in billions into us treasury from millionaire cheats.


I still say going after welfare fraud, disability fraud, and social security fraud is more needed, and would save much, much more money.

quote:

you re not proposing to let billionaires STEAL from taxpayers are you?


There are fewer than 1000 billionaires in this country. Why do we need 87,000 new agents to police 1000 people?

Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:07 pm to
They will be disproportionately placed in red counties, so make it more like 35 plus agents per red county.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7181 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:16 pm to
About a week ago I posted that we had received notice from the IRS that we owed taxes on undeclared income in 2020. We just went through our records and it was declared. These assholes tried to steal $8,080 from us and they gave us a due date of August 22nd. Frick them. Every single last one of them. I have zero doubt that many of you will also find yourselves getting bullshite notices like we did. Lois Lerner is smiling somewhere.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

. If that happens the tax burden on honest citizens will be decreased.



This won’t happen.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:24 pm to
There will not be 87k IRS agents. Who are you people relying on as the basis for repeating this crap over and over?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

we are letting cheats skate because gop underfunded the auditors.


A minute ago you were arguing that the new hires were going to be clerks and secretaries, and the GOP was gaslighting. What happened to that argument?

quote:

you re not proposing to let billionaires STEAL from taxpayers are you?

There are about 1,000 billionaires in the US. Adding 50,000 auditors focused on the uber-wealthy would mean a team of 50 IRS agents could be assigned to audit every single billionaire every single year. Do you think Dems would actually do that to their richest constituency? Of course not. It's the middle class that will see the most of these new auditors.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32889 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

they are retiring 30000 people. replace them ?? and the money for new staff until 2031.

Citing replacements is erroneous math. Not how govt staffing works.

quote:

gop cut the staff of auditors. so we need to get that up to normal

Now this may be relevant if the funded authorizations were cut from their baseline, though this rarely occurs. Authorizations typically move to another part of the organization. What is the number that were cut?
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 1:05 pm
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