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80K NH voters who voted for Bernie in 2016 voted for someone else

Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:42 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:42 am
Momentum
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 7:43 am
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6742 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:48 am to
Well there were a lot more choices this time around
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50137 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:51 am to
What are the total turnout numbers?

I’m sensing apathy.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45783 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:58 am to
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Momentum
LINK?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112677 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:59 am to
He’s dangerous. It’s foolish to think otherwise. Morons here think Biden and Bloomberg are bigger threats.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95773 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:00 am to
Biden is only a threat to women and small children at this point
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31089 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:04 am to
Voted against Hillary last time
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:09 am to
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Well there were a lot more choices this time around


And this is why there is no Bernie movement, otherwise he would have waxed the field. He barely came in first.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12515 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:27 am to
Last time he ran against a moderate. Now there is a crowded field of far left candidates. I am shocked the moderates don’t get more votes , they only got about 10% of the votes. This could be great for democrats if turn out is up . If turn out is down then it looks like moderates don’t believe in any of the candidates who went to far left for them .
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32860 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:28 am to
People hated Hillary that much
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1524 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:34 am to
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Bernie


quote:

He’s dangerous


He is, but it's because of the media machine and the failure of our education system

Socialism is wonderful in theory, but the same diversity that everyone seems to be so hung up on is also what makes it impossible. People have different work ethics, thought processes, and moral compasses. Oh, and evil exists too. Our inherent desire to sin prevents anything like socialism or communism from ever being successful anywhere in the world.

Until people realize that we, as humans, are imperfect creatures, they'll never understand.

I honestly believe that's why so many people reject Christ...because they have zero desire to be introspective and to change their own behaviors. They're too focused on trying to change others to think like they do.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:41 am to
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What are the total turnout numbers?



Around 285,000 for Dems.
Around 145,000 for Repbs.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3094 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:42 am to
That is really high turnout for the dems. Interesting
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56371 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:00 am to
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Our inherent desire to sin prevents anything like socialism or communism from ever being successful anywhere in the world.
Communism isn't designed to be a successful system, at least not in the way it's advertised. It's designed to enslave humanity and make most of us worker monkeys for a select few in a locked-in, unchangeable system.

Even monarchy allowed for some social mobility through various forms of commercialism/trade, but with communism, there is no hope, no escape. You're a labor monkey from birth and there's nothing you can do about it.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:13 am to
You’re Mensa?

If not go pass the test!

That’s a compliment btw

I know one when I hear it
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:14 am
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7838 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:14 am to
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80K NH voters who voted for Bernie in 2016 voted for someone else


In 2016 a lot of those votes were against Hillary, not for Bernie.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:18 am to
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I honestly believe that's why so many people reject Christ...because they have zero desire to be introspective and to change their own behaviors.


Agreed. Thus the Biblical warnings about consciences being seared with hot irons, being given over to reprobate minds, etc.

And socialism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity. Either State is God, or Jesus Christ is God, but both cannot be true concurrently.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:45 am to
Look at what the Southern Baptist and Catholic Church are today. Ain’t nobody want to be a part of that / subject their children to that
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1524 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:48 am to
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You’re Mensa? If not go pass the test! That’s a compliment btw I know one when I hear it


Haha. Thx for the compliment.

I'll just never understand how people can tout the good of humanity for certain economic policies while ignoring the bad of humanity, which will drive the negative in any economic system.

They slap a happy tag on the front with the word "democratic" in attempts to validate the "socialism" aspect. The negative connotations don't come from socialism itself, but instead from the characteristics and behaviors of humanity that makes socialism impossible
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:49 am to
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And socialism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity. Either State is God, or Jesus Christ is God, but both cannot be true concurrently.



I disagree here. Socialism is a completely foolish economic ideology, but saying Socialism makes the state God is like saying Capitalism makes profit/the market God.

You can be a Christian capitalism and you can be a Christian Socialist. The Socialist is obviously wrong about economics but I think you cheapen Christianity when you make it about low taxes/less regulation/economic freedom. I'm a fan of all those things but not because of my Christian faith.
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