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re: $8000 School Choice Vouchers Being Discussed In Texas
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:10 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:10 am to tigerfoot
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Again, I am not against vouchers, but there needs to be a ton of safeguards in place to protect the students and the taxpayer.
I obviously wouldn't just want an 8k check handed to parents with zero accountability. But to act like it's impossible to come up with a workable system to prevent abuse just seems like a desire to keep the status quo and protect government monopoly in education.
Personally, we homeschool our kids. While Arkansas is about to make funds available I have not decided if we will take advantage or not. Government money usually comes with strings and I am more than happy with the education my kids are currently getting for probably $1000 each a year. (Well, plus the $70,000 that we are forfeiting of my wife's salary so she can stay home.lol)
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:20 am to PatriotLSU65
Not reading all the pages, but the end result of such a policy would be... private school tuition just increased by... $8000.
ANYTIME the government funds something, prices go up
ANYTIME the government funds something, prices go up
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:21 am to PatriotLSU65
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Kids should have the choice to go to Metairie Park Country Day School, Newman, Jesuit, Episcopal Baton Rouge, Episcopal of Acadiana, and other top schools.
Those schools have entrance exams, no? They aren't letting in random kids.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:23 am to RebelExpress38
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If public school money followed the kids and forced schools to compete it would actually make the school better.
Nah. There are only so many good students and good teachers, and most importantly, good parents to go around. You will alwaus have crap schools.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:26 am to LSUFanHouston
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Nah. There are only so many good students and good teachers, and most importantly, good parents to go around. You will alwaus have crap schools.
Yeah, but at least kids would not be trapped in crap schools with no options.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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Not reading all the pages, but the end result of such a policy would be... private school tuition just increased by... $8000.
Maybe you should read more. That’s not happening here(Florida) for sure.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:30 am to I B Freeman
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School choice is widely available in Orleans Parrish and has resulted in a massive improvement in Orleans Parrish performance scores.
Charter schools, not vouchers.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:34 am to Wasp
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What happens is new schools pop up in churches that the kids attend. They are understaffed or under qualified to teach and or run a school. The kids don’t learn anything and the church grifts those vouchers with tuition being exactly the voucher amount.
This is happening in LA.
Some "bible church" starts a school, takes vouchers, their "teaching" is playing videos in a classroom for 7 hours a day, and Reverend Jim Bob gets a huge raise and drives fancy cars, all in the name of the Lord.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:38 am to ragincajun03
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I’m not against vouchers and school choice, but what percentage of Louisiana residents do you think are paying $8,000 a year in property taxes?
100% of LA residents are paying $0 in STATE property taxes, and since this is STATE funding we are talking about, the property tax argument is completely bogus.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:40 am to KiwiHead
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If I were a religious school like Jesuit or Holy Cross or Catholic (BR) I would resist taking that money. State money always has strings attached. You cannot maintain your independence.
Most of the better Catholics schools in LA have never taken voucher money. The marginal Catholic schools eat it up... it's what keeps their doors open.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:40 am to arktiger28
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Yeah, but at least kids would not be trapped in crap schools with no options.
That is where charter schools are the answer...
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:42 am to ragincajun03
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I’m not against vouchers and school choice, but what percentage of Louisiana residents do you think are paying $8,000 a year in property taxes?
Maybe it's the same percentage of people who have kids using schools every year of their life?
Most homeowners aren't using public schools at all right now in my city. Those who have kids in public schools either didn't five years ago, or won't in another ten years.
It isn't like your property taxes are just turned off when your kids graduate school.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:47 am to LSUFanHouston
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and Reverend Jim Bob gets a huge raise and drives fancy cars, all in the name of the Lord.
Exactly. Doesn't Jim Bob know those fancy cars are for superintendents and other administrative bureaucrats?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:48 am to ithad2bme
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I’m in Montgomery County, TX
Oh, got ya now.
OP stated $8,000 vouchers in Louisiana as well, and I wondering how many folks in LA have property tax bills that high for their homesteads.
Absolutely believe unincorporated Montgomery Co could easily be that high, especially 20-30 acres.
You can’t put two cows and a couple bales of hay on there to help?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:50 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:You think once the government gets involved those entrance exams won’t be doctored to get the people they want in?
Those schools have entrance exams, no? They aren't letting in random kids.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:51 am to LSUFanHouston
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That is where charter schools are the answer...
I don't know if vouchers are the best answer. I homeschool so most of this doesn't affect me. I am for true educational competition and the destruction of government monopoly on education. If charter schools do that better than vouchers then so be it.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:58 am to arktiger28
Until parents become more responsible and accountable for their children there ain’t a damn thing you can do to fix the public education system.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:59 am to TrouserTrout
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Until parents become more responsible and accountable for their children there ain’t a damn thing you can do to fix the public education system.
Yep. And blaming teachers for not raising other people’s kids doesn’t actually help anyone.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:00 am to TrouserTrout
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Until parents become more responsible and accountable for their children there ain’t a damn thing you can do to fix the public education system.
100% agree. Which is why I have made a financial sacrifice to homeschool my kids.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:04 am to 4cubbies
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Yep. And blaming teachers for not raising other people’s kids doesn’t actually help anyone.
I don't blame teachers. I think the majority of teachers want to do a great job educating kids. Their hands are tied by oversized and overpaid administrations and government bureaucrats.
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