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re: 80-year-old granny banned from YMCA after demanding biological male leave
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to AggieHank86
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Are you suggesting that there is no good data on this perceived threat, because every time that some post-grad suggests such a study his PhD committee shoots him down?
I'm suggesting that it's a non-issue because the types of people gravitating toward PhDs in these institutions are progressive by nature (partially the result of institutional pressure) and know what happens when academics step out of line on holy grail issues. Is it your suggestion that going to the academy with "I want to conduct an analysis on the propensity of genderqueer adults to engage in underage sexual relations" that the response is going to be neutral?
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Yet we are buried under studies of this phenomenon.
We are?
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:31 am to Pettifogger
quote:Surely you read Sowell. He cites studies and hard data on almost every page.
Yet we are buried under studies of this (racial) phenomenon.quote:
We are?
quote:I read an interesting study a few weeks ago, addressing whether post-surgical TG folks (both MTF and FTM) with criminal convictions (before and after surgery) were more likely to display criminal behavior patterns associated with their original sex or the new one.
I'm suggesting that it's a non-issue because the types of people gravitating toward PhDs in these institutions are progressive by nature (partially the result of institutional pressure) and know what happens when academics step out of line on holy grail issues. Is it your suggestion that going to the academy with "I want to conduct an analysis on the propensity of genderqueer adults to engage in underage sexual relations" that the response is going to be neutral?
Presumably, "The Left" would insist that the "final" sex/gender would govern final behavior, but the study found quite the opposite. Post-surgery, genetic males retained male criminal proclivities, and genetic females retained female criminal proclivities.
Yet the study was undertaken and published.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:40 am to AggieHank86
Re: Sowell - he's completely unacceptable to public intellectuals or the academy, which I think is my point.
Your study sounds interesting but it's quite a bit different from what we're talking about. I'd be pretty interested to hear about the experiences of those involved and whether they suffer personally/professionally for a study that will be appropriately used to attack the legitimacy of scientific consensus on transgenderism.
Your study sounds interesting but it's quite a bit different from what we're talking about. I'd be pretty interested to hear about the experiences of those involved and whether they suffer personally/professionally for a study that will be appropriately used to attack the legitimacy of scientific consensus on transgenderism.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:42 am to Padme
The kids weren't in any danger from this individual, but we derailed into that discussion anyway. Let's get back to the OP.
Granny.
Honestly, I have some sympathy for her. She may have been a young adult in the 1960s, but she was not necessarily a flower child or free-love adherent. Finding a male in the dressing room with her was probably quite a shock, and I sympathize with her reaction.
Granny.
Honestly, I have some sympathy for her. She may have been a young adult in the 1960s, but she was not necessarily a flower child or free-love adherent. Finding a male in the dressing room with her was probably quite a shock, and I sympathize with her reaction.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:43 am to AggieHank86
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BUT HE DRESSES WEIRD!!!!! rrrrreeeeeeeeeee
I never said that. You wrote a missive and then assign an argument I never made to “win”. That’s not a good sign.
I don’t care to go down the rabbit holes of assumptions. Bottom line is you are defending a biological male helping young girls out of their bathing suits. A despicable position.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:44 am to Pettifogger
quote:Of course. I found it because the search terms matched on something else I was researching. I did not discuss it because it relates directly to THIS point, but rather because it related to YOUR point about academic freedom.
Your study sounds interesting but it's quite a bit different from what we're talking about.
quote:But the studies and raw data on which he relies comes largely from academia, which was MY point.
Sowell - he's completely unacceptable to public intellectuals or the academy, which I think is my point.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:45 am to BBONDS25
quote:More a general observation than a response directly to you.
I never said that. You wrote a missive and then assign an argument I never made to “win”. That’s not a good sign.
quote:I didn't really expect anyone to respond to the points about the "risks" associated with gay, lesbian and TG swim teachers, as opposed to well-disguised pedophiles. The logic is too difficult to refute, and no one here is going to admit that he is responding to this story like an emotional child.
I don’t care to go down the rabbit holes of assumptions
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:47 am to AggieHank86
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More a general observation than a response directly to you.
Likely more of a rash generalization than an observation.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:06 pm to AggieHank86
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The kids weren't in any danger from this individual,
This in and of itself is a pretty large assumption. I would tend to err on the side of any biological male in a woman’s dressing room helping little girls change clothes should send up a red flag. (Why this needs to be said is beyond me.)
We have no idea of this individual’s mental state or reason for choosing to be transgendered. I would guess for every individual who truly wants to be and feels like a woman there is another with significant sexuality identification issues. Who knows what these individuals are capable of?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:10 pm to AggieHank86
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Of course. I found it because the search terms matched on something else I was researching. I did not discuss it because it relates directly to THIS point, but rather because it related to YOUR point about academic freedom.
I have a hard time believing you think there is broad academic freedom in any meaningful sense on issues of transgenderism and race. Maybe I'm wrong. I just don't know how you can look at the scores of absurd stories from academia (say, John Stadden on the gender binary and the APA) and believe it exists.
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But the studies and raw data on which he relies comes largely from academia, which was MY point.
Do they? If so, I'm not sure it's really in the sense we're talking about. I see Sowell rely on data from government agencies and public interest groups more so than academic studies. But even to the extent you're correct, it's not disconcerting that he has these building blocks to use (meaning there was once interest in the topic), but he's now the voice in the wilderness growing the discipline and is marginalized to the fringes of academia?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:11 pm to SquatchDawg
Well and again, I think it makes sense to better define danger?
Molestation?
What about exposing little kids to someone authoritatively telling them up is actually down?
Molestation?
What about exposing little kids to someone authoritatively telling them up is actually down?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:19 pm to Pettifogger
quote:I think that there is certainly a lot of self-selection, which leads to more academic work in one direction than the others.
I have a hard time believing you think there is broad academic freedom in any meaningful sense on issues of transgenderism and race
But I interact with lots of academics, and my experience is that most (certainly not "all") are much more interested in knowledge and in finding the "right" answers than in advancing a political or ideological agenda. At the same time, of course, the self-selection does mean that they have a preconception that THEIR view is probably the correct one. Nonetheless, most seem willing to test it.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:31 pm to AggieHank86
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Probably 5-6. But even them, I only let one go when sister went with her.
Either you aren’t telling the truth or you didn’t take your kids out alot. I too have daughters and when they were 3-4, they would go places with me. I don’t care where you go or how long/short you’re gone, girls ALWAYS have to go to the bathroom. Many times I had to stand outside the bathroom at a Home Depot while they used the facilities. Did you never take one kid b themselves to a store?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:40 pm to riverparish
quote:You claim to have sent a 3yo little girl into public restrooms by herself while you waited outside? You are either (a) a liar or (b) one of the worst parents that I have ever heard of.
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quote:No idea where you live, but I have never seen a Home Depot without a family restroom. Or a Target, or a mall, etcetera.
Many times I had to stand outside the bathroom at a Home Depot while they used the facilities
quote:When they were little? Not often, no.
Did you never take one kid by themselves to a store?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:14 pm to AggieHank86
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I didn't really expect anyone to respond to the points about the "risks" associated with gay, lesbian and TG swim teachers, as opposed to well-disguised pedophiles. The logic is too difficult to refute, and no one here is going to admit that he is responding to this story like an emotional child.
What is the verification process for determining a gay, lesbian, TG swim teacher's sexuality? Is there like an affidavit that they sign, are we hooking up sensors to detect genital bloodflow response to hetero/homosexual stimuli, perhaps a reference check of prior sexual partners? Or are we just taking the swim coach's word for it? Probably not even asking them right?
Statistically, are women/girls more likely to be sexually abused by a man or a woman? This study says girls are abused by males 88% of the time. I'm not looking up sexual abuse crime stats for adult women because this is obviously a waste of time and we all know it.
So a girl is statistically MUCH more likely to be abused by a male than a female. Does adding one male into a room of all females change the risk profile of that room?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:00 pm to AggieHank86
Oh, wow, that post explains a lot. You're out of touch. Gay men and lesbians that transition are a tiny minority these days.
I've seen studies (sorry, none handy atm) that show that the largest segments of trannies under 40 are men in woman face larping as lesbians (ie, straight men with autogynephelia that get their fetish rocks off creeping on women in locker rooms (and worse)) and self-loathing and/ or yaoi addicted straight women larping as gay men.
So, no, it is not safe at all to assume a tranny was gay when they identified as their birth sex these days. Far from it.
This transgender trend as an existential threat to women and femininity, no matter how much libs and lolbertarians try to gas light women into thinking that it isn't. Although this mental illness doesn't necessarily make them pedos, it is quite likely that they are attracted to the gender they pretend to be. Why risk having them around naked children when they already display such a psychotic break from reality?
I've seen studies (sorry, none handy atm) that show that the largest segments of trannies under 40 are men in woman face larping as lesbians (ie, straight men with autogynephelia that get their fetish rocks off creeping on women in locker rooms (and worse)) and self-loathing and/ or yaoi addicted straight women larping as gay men.
So, no, it is not safe at all to assume a tranny was gay when they identified as their birth sex these days. Far from it.
This transgender trend as an existential threat to women and femininity, no matter how much libs and lolbertarians try to gas light women into thinking that it isn't. Although this mental illness doesn't necessarily make them pedos, it is quite likely that they are attracted to the gender they pretend to be. Why risk having them around naked children when they already display such a psychotic break from reality?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:07 pm to AcadieAnne
quote:Goodness, but this place makes my head hurt sometimes.
Oh, wow, that post explains a lot. You're out of touch. Gay men and lesbians that transition are a tiny minority these days.
Where did I say ANYTHING about gay men transitioning?
The post first looked at the likelihood of a gay man committing a sexual assault upon a female child. Then it looked at the likelihood of a lesbian committing a sexual assault upon a female child. Then it looked at the likelihood of a transgender (either MTF or FTM) committing a sexual assault upon a female child. Last, it looked at how a true pedophile would go about committing such an assualt.
At NO POINT did it discuss a gay man transitioning to female.
Where do y'all GET this stuff?
It seems like y'all have some sort of encryption device that reads the words I type and converts them into something you want to believe that you have read.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:09 pm to Padme
I have no comment at this time.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:38 pm to AggieHank86
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You claim to have sent a 3yo little girl into public restrooms by herself while you waited outside? You are either (a) a liar or (b) one of the worst parents that I have ever heard of.
No, I’m actually telling the truth. I’ve been to quite a few big box stores that didn’t have family restrooms. I went to a chain restaurant today that didn’t have a family restroom. When your 3 year old has to go to the bathroom, you really have no choice. And to say I’m “one of the worst parents you’ve heard of”…really? Nice straw man. Like I said, I’m call BS on what you said earlier. This is why everyone makes fun of you and can’t take you seriously.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:42 pm to riverparish
quote:You raise your kids, and I will raise mine. When my 3yo needed to use the restroom and no family restroom was available, I took her into the men’s restroom handicap stall and helped her.
When your 3 year old has to go to the bathroom, you really have no choice.
You people bitch about this swim teacher, and then admit that you send a 3yo unsupervised and alone into a public restroom. Amazing.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 3:45 pm
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