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Posted on 6/18/17 at 11:57 am to cajunangelle
What was the flag of the other vessel? I wonder if that ship was passing close and suddenly turned. They would have passed each other on the right and if the container suddenly turned to starboard?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 11:59 am to cajunangelle
I've navigated a ski boat drunk on a crowded lake on the 4th of July and they can't manage to miss a ship on the open sea with millions of dollars of navigation equipment?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 12:03 pm to deltaland
Is it possible this was intentional on part of the other cargo ship?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 12:08 pm to cajunangelle
Guess theyll have to start making the matines on board stand all the watch since we have yo do everything else for the navy
Posted on 6/18/17 at 12:09 pm to udtiger
quote:
What was the flag of the other vessel?
It was Philippine.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 12:10 pm to cajunangelle
quote:i dont mean for this to be a loaded or inflammatory question in any way, this is not the time for the typical arguing here, but what exactly do you mean by this? is there an implication in this?
Yeah, too many people on watch to make sure this doesn't happen. Makes no sense unless the mid watch crew all abandoned their stations.
and again, im genuinely not trying to start anything, but Im assuming youre Navy and know more about this than I do, so I just want to make sure Im understanding you correctly.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 6/18/17 at 12:24 pm to Roaad
quote:
Oh and it is dark as frick on the open sea in the early morning.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:09 pm to blackandgolddude
quote:So have I.
Stood way too many 00-06 watches to let an answer like that slide.
quote:Yes.
It doesnt matter if comms aren't there.
Yes it does.
If you are communicating with the vessel to divert, and they do, but due to a comm failure, you turn in a direction that has you back in the path of the ship you were diverting from. . .
Also, as an AEGIS radar tech, I can tell you that in decent swells you get false positives at or around sea level. Nav radar is just as bad. There is a reason why the Navy still uses maps and shite.
Alot of things had to frick up for this to happen. But it all starts with a failure in communication. Anyone who suggests otherwise knows frick-all about the Navy. It isn't a fricking video game.
I have saltwater in my veins, motherfricker. . .come at me.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:11 pm to EA6B
quote:Neither are as reliable as you think they are.
Running lights and radar?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:15 pm to Roaad
quote:
I have saltwater in my veins, motherfricker. . .come at me.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:22 pm to Roaad
quote:
Communication failure
Oh and it is dark as frick on the open sea in the early morning.
That's why they have radar. Hopefully they have whoot, whoot sirens i case of impending crash.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:23 pm to cajunangelle
Thanks Obama
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:26 pm to jeff5891
quote:
1700s were a long time ago, baw
The Eaton after the collision with the Battleship Wisconsin, May 1956.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:27 pm to WhiskeyPapa
I am going to say Wisconsin won that one solely on points.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:29 pm to Roaad
There's 12 guys on the bridge of navy ships and none of them really know how to handle a ship.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:46 pm to olddawg26
VADM Aucoin presser script from earlier today
quote:
The damage included a significant impact under the ship's pilothouse on the starboard side and a large puncture below the ship's waterline, opening the hull to the sea.
The ship suffered severe damage rapidly flooding 3 large compartments that included 1 machinery room and 2 berthing areas for 116 crew. The Commanding Officer's cabin was also directly hit, trapping the CO inside.
...
Heroic efforts prevented the flooding from catastrophically spreading which could have caused the ship to founder or sink. It could have been much worse.
The crew navigated the ship into one of the busiest ports in the world with a magnetic compass and backup navigation equipment. 1 of 2 shafts were locked.
...
As you are aware, we have found the remains of a number of our missing shipmates. Our deepest sympathies are with the families of these Sailors.
Out of concern for the families and the notification process, I will decline to state how many we have found at this time. We owe that to the families and friends of these shipmates and hope you can respect this process.
We will update you after all notifications have been made.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:49 pm to Roaad
B2B
SPY (sucks at surface tracking, I'll give you this, but still would of found this tanker easily)
67
BME/73
CIWS search radar
Port/Stbd lookout
Aft lookout
OOD
JOOD
CONN
BMOW
SUWC
OSS (if manned)
TAO
SWS
Night vision (should be on the bridge)
Five short on ships whistle
Please tell me how all of these watch stations and systems failed to find and/or alert their position to a 40,000 ton tanker.
SPY (sucks at surface tracking, I'll give you this, but still would of found this tanker easily)
67
BME/73
CIWS search radar
Port/Stbd lookout
Aft lookout
OOD
JOOD
CONN
BMOW
SUWC
OSS (if manned)
TAO
SWS
Night vision (should be on the bridge)
Five short on ships whistle
Please tell me how all of these watch stations and systems failed to find and/or alert their position to a 40,000 ton tanker.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:51 pm to blackandgolddude
quote:
The sensors and combat system knew where this tanker was hours before the collision. This is borderline neglegince on many watch standers.
Mutiny?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:54 pm to blackandgolddude
quote:
We owe it to our families and the Navy to understand what happened. Under my authority, I am initiating a JAGMAN investigation into this collision, and I will appoint a flag officer to lead that investigation. There will also be a Safety investigation.
The U.S. Coast Guard is to take the lead on the marine casualty investigation.
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