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61% of Voters Reject Government Shutdown To Protect ‘Dreamers’ Program

Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:32 pm
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A top Senate Democrat is threatening to force a federal government shutdown unless Congress does something to protect the nearly 800,000 illegal immigrants who came to this country as children who now face possible deportation. But most voters oppose a shutdown over the so-called Dreamers issue and believe securing the border is a bigger priority.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 61% of Likely U.S. Voters think it is important to secure the border against future illegal immigration before dealing with the Dreamers question, with 43% who say it is Very Important. Thirty-three percent (33%) disagree and don’t attach much importance to securing the border first, but that includes only 12% who say it’s Not At All Important.


Pelosi and Shumer are on the wrong side of history.

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Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
They don’t care.

They’ll play this card anyway.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
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They’ll play this card anyway.

And the republicans should let them.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:36 pm to
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unless Congress does something to protect the nearly 800,000 illegal immigrants




frickery
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:39 pm to
Let them shut it down.

More than one way to fill that tax cut budget hole!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:40 pm to
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And the republicans should let them.



The government shouldn't be shut down for illegal aliens.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:42 pm to
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The government shouldn't be shut down for illegal aliens.



I'm happy whenever the Fed Gov is "shut down".


Any excuse is a good excuse.

Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:43 pm to
I'm for securing the border will a wall, doubling spending for the border patrol, INS, and ICE. Also want to deport all these freeloaders!
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
1102 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:45 pm to
And most voters think that the republicans will get wiped out in the mid-terms.
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Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:45 pm to
Here's my response to the "Dreamers" supporters...

Suppose some guy breaks into your house tonight to steal your property, and he brings his infant child with him.

You get the guy at gunpoint and call the cops, who take the adult away.

Are you now responsible for his infant child (housing, clothing, food, education)? That child had no control over the fact his father brought him somewhere illegally. He should be allowed to stay in your house and you should have to pay for it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:45 pm to
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I'm happy whenever the Fed Gov is "shut down".


Any excuse is a good excuse.




Heard dat.

Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:46 pm to
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The government shouldn't be shut down for illegal aliens.

It won't be shut down for illegals. That assumes dems care about illegals. If the dems force a shutdown it will be for ideological and political reasons that have nothing to do with dreamers.

Let the dems alienate themselves further.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32702 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:47 pm to
Government shutdowns are bullshite anyway. All the important people still go to work anyway.

If your gov job isn't important enough to be required during a shutdown, it should be reevaluated.

And Congress gets backpay through shutdown days anyway. Let them shut it down. It only hurts them aesthetically.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:50 pm to
First, in the past, this would have been a great play for the dems because the MSM media would have turned this around on the republicans and no one would have questioned it. That playbook is now over thanks to Trump, his twitter, and his based supporters.

Second, it seems like the shut down of the federal government is a good thing. If I understand it correctly, all essential services continue on any ways, so it is just the nonessential fluff.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81337 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:52 pm to
frick the dreamers and the 17 third world family members each that they want to chain migrate here
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:52 pm to
I'm not sure what the real numbers are, but I am sure that asking the questions that suggest the desired answers, like Rasmussen did, didn't get close to obtaining anything close to the real numbers.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Government shutdowns are bullshite anyway. All the important people still go to work anyway.



Yep. And, they end up giving "back pay" to those that DIDN'T work and it just becomes a vacation.


Still....frick Fed Gov in its gargantuan overreach. So, shut it down (even if just for a short while) so I can enjoy the thought of it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Second, it seems like the shut down of the federal government is a good thing. If I understand it correctly, all essential services continue on any ways, so it is just the nonessential fluff.




The only non-essential parts of the Federal government that people like are the park services. They should make them essential then the Dems and MSM will have zero political optics during the "shutdown".
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:54 pm to
You actually believe most people want to throw open the borders.

Let the Dems do it and see what happens
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:55 pm to
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I'm for securing the border will a wall, doubling spending for the border patrol, INS, and ICE. Also want to deport all these freeloaders!



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