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re: 30 Million Illegals

Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:24 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12646 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:24 am to
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I see we're back to cheerleading for tyranny and unilateral control of the government with no checks and balances. That tracks.


She’s just mad that the Obamacare insurance bill is coming due and they/them is having to scrape up the money. All the while making they/them feel better by calling someone else a liar.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15013 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:25 am to
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Border needs to be completely shutdown and mass deportations started. We don't need 'more' low iq Illegal Immigrants we have 30 to 40 million here already. I know you guys masturbate to Trumps promises and lies but what good does it do for him to talk about things but not actually follow through?



Who are you recommending we vote for to do this?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6862 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:33 am to
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Who are you recommending we vote for to do this?




Not Trump. He didn't do it last time. He was extremely lazy on the borer and just talked about doing a bunch of stuff. He was so lazy he couldn't even stop Illegal Immigration during a damn pandemic

We had Illegals crossing all throughout Covid. That's just embarrassing.
Posted by bamabonners
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
2091 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:36 am to
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He was the president he can do what he wants.


You have no clue how government works. It really is a shame that you get a vote.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:38 am to
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Not Trump. He didn't do it last time.


Yeah, theres a lot of cognitive dissonance.

They want to throw the bums out, but give Trump another shot even after failing spectacularly.

They dont get it. Hes a huge part of the problem.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71923 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:41 am to
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Same ppl who call themselves conservatives but hate Trump and go on about the deficit and saying illegals have rights will frick us biggly.


Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6862 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:44 am to
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You have no clue how government works.


Biden seems to have no issues with this even when the Supreme Court has struck things down. Maybe Trump can learn from him?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16992 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:52 am to
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Will get rights if you don’t vote for Trump or stay home.

The votes on this board mean nothing sadly. It's all about those swing states who are far removed from illegals. Luckily some are starting to hit home.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:01 am to
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Who are you recommending we vote for to do this?


They don’t know, anyone but Trump.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46151 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:07 am to
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Same ppl who call themselves conservatives but hate Trump and go on about the deficit and saying illegals have rights will frick us biggly.

They are more likely to do this if you refer to them as fricking Ronbots and worthless assholes.

They are less likely to do this if you don’t.

Consider yourself informed.


It's going to be extremely difficult to turn the tide against Fundamental Transformation because it requires a majority of Americans who are mentally tough with sound reasoning skills, your post is referring to the mentally fragile.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:27 am to
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They are more likely to do this if you refer to them as fricking Ronbots and worthless assholes.


quote:

mentally fragile.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:34 am to
So Biden will fix the border?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6862 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:34 am to
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They don’t know, anyone but Trump.


The idea that Trump will do it this time is insanity. Do you know the definition of insanity? Nominating Trump yet again literally the only person Biden can (and will) beat is insanity. Trump had both houses of congress for two years his fist term and got zilch accomplished on Illegal Immigration. Trump isn't going to do anything but make a bunch of bombastic claims that you guys will eat up and parrot and act like he is actually doing something meanwhile Illegals will still be crossing the southern border every single day. We don't have any other choices because you imbeciles gave us Trump again
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73851 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:36 am to
So you cant name one person? You just proceed to cry like an aiport karen over Orange?

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11245 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:36 am to
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Who are you recommending we vote for to do this?


I've published my plan on this and it will work, and save us a ton of money and restore respect for the sovereignty of this nation - but I'm not a billionaire with gold plated toilets, and I don't take money from Pfizer to shut down a vaccine commission led by RFK JR, so somehow I'm not a real candidate.

I have a series of videos and a 50 page pdf strategy document on the border. No other candidate has anything like this.

There is a lengthy pdf that goes over this in more detail at this link: LINK

The pdf mentioned above is an EO I will sign on day 1.

This is a national emergency. We are being invaded at the border and this is an existential threat to the nation.

500k Troops at the border. The entire border covered with boots on the ground. Engineer and similar units will put obstacles in place, and build a wall.

Treated as a combat deployment. Combat pay, tax free etc for military and Border Patrol.

Border secured. Nothing but commerce at ports of entry can enter the country.

All federal money to illegals cut off. Remittances taxed at 50%. EO ending anchor babies.

Those that self-deport get money as they cross back into Mexico. All must leave. No contrived status ploys from Biden administration will be honored.

Cartels designated as terrorist organizations. China a state sponsor of terrorism and hostile nation. China must pay for each student studying in the US. $500k per semester, paid in silver or gold. No Chinese purchases of land or anything else related to commerce. China owes us $25T for COVID and intellectual property theft. All Chinese assets in the US reviewed for national security relevance. No travel from China entering the US, because China can't be trusted to handle pathogens and not unleash them on the world.

No military action launched into Mexico.

World Health Organization is an arm of the Chinese government. Gets same designation as China. No funding of the WHO. US will sever all ties and anyone connected to the WHO will be looked at for possible ties to the WHO's nefarious mission.

United Nations cut off from all funding. They contribute to the border invasion. Seizing their building and assets in the US, and expelling every UN member.

World Economic Forum. Everything creating immigration pressure is pushed by them. Also they stand in direct opposition to everything our nation stands for. They are as great a threat as any nation state could be. Designation as terrorist org and hostile nation. I will not allow the WEF to exist.

Flores loophole ignored. It's unconstitutional. E-verify mandatory. Visa overstays have to go. Any nation that refuses to help repatriate their citizens gets no aid and no visas.

If Congress passes amnesty I will ignore it. It's unconstitutional. Amnesty is an overt violation of constitutional provisions to safeguard the nation, rewards / incentivizes / invites lawless behavior. It is tantamount to national suicide and Congress does not have that authority.

No military service in exchange for citizenship, for anyone that entered service during the Biden administration. Too much of a security risk. Those personnel will be separated.

Congress must fund national security. If they refuse, the President is mandated to declare an emergency and take whatever steps are necessary to protect and preserve the Constitution and the nation.

I will not ask Congress for permission and I will not ask the Courts for forgiveness. Securing the nation is a constitutional obligation of the President. It's his #1 obligation.

Costs and Savings
Let's assume 600k people involved in this effort. To give them combat pay and tax free status, that will cost us a bit less than $20B per year, but let's round it to $20B.

We will spend about $10B per year on equipment like optics, 4-wheelers etc. Let's work on a 4yr plan, so that's $40B. Probably less but let's say $40B.

$300 per person on a bus, 30M people over the span of 4 years, let's round that to $10B for transport to a holding area prior to self-deportation.

Give $2000 in pesos to each person that self-deports, and if we get 30M to self-deport, that's $60B.

We spend, annually, about $75B on illegals to educate them, $40B to provide healthcare for them, $15B for welfare. That's $130B each year. This money is immediately halted when I take office.

Over 4 years that would save us $520B.
It would cost us $80B for personnel to seal the border. $40B for materiel support to those people, $70B in deportation costs (transport and cash incentive). That's $190B, let's round that to $200B.

We now have a net savings in four years of $320B.

What if we spent $50B over 4 years to build factories and similar items to provide employment for those self-deporting?

That makes our 4yr savings $270B, rather than $320B.

If we spend $30B per year to subsidize these factories / businesses at the border, we still save $50B per year in savings compared to current spending, because it would cost us about $50B each year for a border force, but we'd be saving $130B by terminating aid to illegals. 130-50=80-30=50.

After five years we have a completely locked down border, all illegals gone, increased economic activity for these people in Mexico, and we save a total of $320B.

I will also put healthcare back in the free market, create deflation rather than inflation, purge regulations, make peace with Russia, and a lot more.

But again, I don't paint my face orange and make grandiose promises, and I don't take money from anyone - so somehow I'm not an actual candidate.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6862 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:40 am to
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So Biden will fix the border?


No Administration since Carter (which is when this madness really started) has 'fixed' the border. They don't want it fixed and when I say 'they' I mean both republicans and democrats. They want an open border just for different reasons. All this will stop when American citizens put a stop to it which is never going to happen because we are lazy. We have allowed this to go on for over 45 years. The idea that Illegal Immigration only happens under Democratic leadership is laughable. Plenty came in under Reagan (who stupidly granted amnesty) Bush I, Bush II, and yes even Donald Trump. None of them tried to end birthright citizenship, build a wall, do mass deportations, militarize the border, etc because they don't want to do that. There isn't any difference between any of them. We've reached the point that with 30 to 40 million Illegals already here one more is too many. Trump had four years and couldn't do it. He had his chance and failed.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6862 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:43 am to
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So you cant name one person? You just proceed to cry like an aiport karen over Orange?


There were 10 other choices in the Primaries and you morons renominated Trump who got his clock cleaned by a senile moron in Joe Biden in 2020. That is insanity and you will deserve yet another convincing loss in November. There were plenty of other choices but you went with a guy who half the country can't stand.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73851 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:44 am to
So you still cant name one person who do it?

You double down ln crying about Orange

I mean how can you deny you are an airport Karen?

Self reflect on how crazy you sound. Hopefully you are not a male
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:44 am to
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There were 10 other choices in the Primaries and you morons renominated Trump


Seems like they had options and they chose Trump
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
3752 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:44 am to
What are the illegal alien numbers up to January 2021 and then after that?

We'll wait..................................
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