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re: 210 illegals have committed murder since 2020. Spare us the crying over two people in MN

Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:19 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:19 am to
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If your argument is “they shouldn’t be here at all,” then crime rates are irrelevant and shouldn’t be used as justification


This is some poor reasoning for sure.

All illegal immigrant crime is preventable.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41734 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:22 am to
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If the numbers are correct (and I would think 210 is actually low and the numbers are in fact not correct) then it would completely destroy the argument that any of this is about public safety.


More poor reasoning but we expect this from you
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:23 am to
I will repeat it 200 times a thread if I have to.

Their argument is really this:

"We already have millions of democrat voters committing violent crimes, what is wrong with importing a few million more?"
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:25 am to
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210 illegals have committed murder since 2020.

Lower than I expected tbh
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
603 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:29 am to
Now do how many white males have committed murders in that time frame.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 7:30 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41734 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:30 am to
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I'm not even sure what point stout was trying to make with the 210 number.


210 is mich higher than 0.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:32 am to
210 of, what do y’all say, 20,000,00 or more? How does that rate compare to natural born US citizens?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41734 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:33 am to
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What is the claim even? Because illegal immigrants murder Americans, we should just shrug when the federal government kills Americans?


You aren’t smart enough to acknowledge the preceding actions of the killed, which justified their shootings.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:34 am to
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The simple and basic answer to this question is that Ruby Ridge happened in 1992, and Waco in 1993, while widespread use of the internet by the public didn't begin until two or three years later.


Well it's an example of the difference in outrage generation and fluff for their preferred members of government. And their quest for generated outrage. And what was the message after both of this example? "Just comply and they would have been fine"

Janet Reno was atty general for both the Waco seige and the Elian Gonzalez home raid. Does she carry any hate from the Dems or media for either? She was a child killing and kidnapping machine.

The best example is Don Lemon again. Remember he is embedded in the middle of the violent "protestors" now. Buuut when it's time to steer the outrage generator... it was:

The "media" is simply a disingenuous outrage machine that has gotten people killed. And they are here to demand your obedience.

quote:

You — you see someone jogging down the street and you take it into your hands, you think it's your responsibility to stop that person, when you’re not even sure if they are committing a crime, because, what, it is your street, it is your town, it is your country. It is the ultimate degree of entitlement, when people believe that this is how they’re supposed to be. What the right is saying about Kyle Rittenhouse is, well, the government didn't do its job, so it took a 17-year-old kid to come in and do what was right. That’s vigilantism. That’s not what — we’re not supposed to be vigilantes. We’re not supposed to taking justice into our own hands. Imagine if every single person in America did that. Imagine if you called for black men or just black folks to be armed and go out in the streets and, you know, do what they think, justice, take it back, remember what they did to you and slavery and whatever, go and take things. Imagine if people were condoning that or just doing that. Would there be a different perception in this country about who should and who shouldn’t carry guns? Would our gun laws be different? I certainly think so. So there is a double standard, but there is an ultimate degree of entitlement: 'This is what I’m supposed to do because this belongs to me,' meaning this street, this town and this country. I think it is tough for people to hear that, but it is the absolute truth. I don’t walk down the street saying this is my — I pay taxes here and therefore I — no, if I see someone breaking the law, I call the cops. That’s what they’re there for. It's supposed to be about law and order. This isn’t about law and order. This is about unlawful conduct and disorder."


This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 7:38 am
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157788 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:39 am to
I think the point is the lack of outrage from the tranny boy commie klan.

I wonder how many of them kill and maim innocent Americans in drunk driving incidents and driving period.

I also wonder how many came as mules with a load of fentanyl on their backs or in their POS cars and the number of deaths related to that.

I am also confused by the tranny boy klan’s desire to keep these people here. And…why the Klan is shocked by immigration enforcement. If I were in Australia illegally I would expect to be caught and deported and I certainly wouldn’t whine about it when it happened.

I am also confused as to why Mexico isn’t upset about all this brain drain.

So many questions.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:40 am to
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210 is mich higher than 0.

It's also an acceptably low number if it's correct. I'm guessing there is no way it's correct.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157788 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:43 am to
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It's also an acceptably low number


Someone should inform the loved ones of those killed.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21721 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:49 am to
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It's also an acceptably low number if it's correct. I'm guessing there is no way it's correct.


Where do you draw the line?

210 is acceptable, is 420? 840? 2,100?

At what point does "acceptable deaths" become unacceptable?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:56 am to
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Someone should inform the loved ones of those killed.

If the number is 210, which is unbelievably low then it's an acceptably low number that would be significantly lower than the rate at which citizens murder people.

If you're worried about people being killed maybe we should deport all cars.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157788 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 7:59 am to
I understand you find it acceptable.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:01 am to
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I understand you find it acceptable.

If someone has a family member get murdered, it's tragic. The legal status of the individual doesn't seem to be that important for public safety unless it's proven that illegals are murdering at a much higher rate than citizens.

If the 210 number is correct (and I'm on record saying that it's way too low to be believable) then it's definitely an acceptable number.

During that same time period the total amount of murders is approaching a magnitude on the level of 100K
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157788 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:03 am to
It’s an acceptable number to you. I understand. I believe you believe that.

I am not arguing with you so you can go sympathize with them elsewhere.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:03 am to
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The legal status of the individual doesn't seem to be that important for public safety unless it's proven that illegals are murdering at a much higher rate than citizens.


Ridiculously stupid comment.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:06 am to
With 40 to 50 million illegals do you expect there to be 0 murders?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:07 am to
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Ridiculously stupid comment.

What's ridiculously stupid is thinking 210 murderers over a 6 year period with 40 to 50 million people is something that should terrify the public
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